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This is another reason on why car audio is dead most of the great Engineers have moved over to were they can make a living, the sellout of car audio has lead to margins that don't allow eng,Techs,etc to be able to earn a living, this is why you don't see products that are cutting edge anymore in car audio very few companies will fork out the r&d money anymore it is way ez to goto China and pick a,b,c and what would China know about Car audio hense Gay designs and lame products.
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we build in china, and design at the very desk I'm typing from. If they don't build to my spec they have to do it again. I'm not happy until it's within tolerance.
quote:Originally posted by quad box: This is another reason on why car audio is dead most of the great Engineers have moved over to were they can make a living, the sellout of car audio has lead to margins that don't allow eng,Techs,etc to be able to earn a living, this is why you don't see products that are cutting edge anymore in car audio very few companies will fork out the r&d money anymore it is way ez to goto China and pick a,b,c and what would China know about Car audio hense Gay designs and lame products.
and of course JL, who actually employs engineers is always called "overpriced," where I personally think they are doing it the right way
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well jl is alittle overpriced. why it is bashed so much is people compare there subs to spl subs and they have never built one...
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yea and the W7 is a sql sub. it gets loud while sounding good but there is sooo much laquing to compare it to a spl sub.
the w7 has massive excursion but that isnt everything, BL is alot more important.
not taking anything from JL they do what the do make a good sounding sub and sell them...
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but can a w7 go on fire the way power bass can?
that is the question?
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Honestly, It's a rare occasion that ANY sub catches fire like yours did. When a VC opens, and you keep sending power to it, there's a chance it can arc, thus creating high voltage/current sparks. I'm still not sure why you decided to film the fire, rather than trying to put it out. You and your friends seemed to be having a great time with it. I, personally, would have been more concerned with my car catching fire than getting it on youTube.
Out of curiosity, what did you do with the sub? I know that the Canadian Importer handles the warranties up there, not us. Maybe that's why our warranty manager decided not to warranty it. I can't say for sure. it was his call, not mine.
Within a few short months, the warranty department will fall under my department (technical services), so I will have more control over when and why warranties are voided.
I understand that this is still an issue with you. I also understand why. If you have any questions you would like for me to answer directly please feel free to email me
j.kent@powerbassusa.com
or call. our number is on the website. Just ask for Jay, I'm the only Jay here. I assure you that my goal is to keep the customers happy (which you obviously are not), but keep in mind that not everyone can be satisfied all the time.
1. Is the ASA-2200 out yet? 2. How does that compare to piggy backing 2 ASA-1000's? I did that today and pulled a 146.7 3. How much (REALLY) can the PB 2XL 15's handle for burping and still be usable? 4. Can we get a sneak peak of some of the new stuff yer working on? (hehehe)
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quote:Originally posted by powerbassusa: Honestly, It's a rare occasion that ANY sub catches fire like yours did. When a VC opens, and you keep sending power to it, there's a chance it can arc, thus creating high voltage/current sparks. I'm still not sure why you decided to film the fire, rather than trying to put it out. You and your friends seemed to be having a great time with it. I, personally, would have been more concerned with my car catching fire than getting it on youTube.
Out of curiosity, what did you do with the sub? I know that the Canadian Importer handles the warranties up there, not us. Maybe that's why our warranty manager decided not to warranty it. I can't say for sure. it was his call, not mine.
Within a few short months, the warranty department will fall under my department (technical services), so I will have more control over when and why warranties are voided.
I understand that this is still an issue with you. I also understand why. If you have any questions you would like for me to answer directly please feel free to email me
j.kent@powerbassusa.com
or call. our number is on the website. Just ask for Jay, I'm the only Jay here. I assure you that my goal is to keep the customers happy (which you obviously are not), but keep in mind that not everyone can be satisfied all the time.
We are a small company, but I do my best.
what else is there to do when it goes on fire as you are driving at 2 am? if you have no water with you then you are screwwed, not much to do but to film it burn.
warranty? who is the canadian distributor of this anyways? i bought these a few years back anyways, i'd probably get the shaft with any warranty departnemt.
I dont think power bass is sold in canada anymore period.
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quote:Originally posted by JustinTD: Jay, I have a few questions ....
1. Is the ASA-2200 out yet? 2. How does that compare to piggy backing 2 ASA-1000's? I did that today and pulled a 146.7 3. How much (REALLY) can the PB 2XL 15's handle for burping and still be usable? 4. Can we get a sneak peak of some of the new stuff yer working on? (hehehe)
1. the 2200 is approved and we are waiting for the right power terminals to finish production. It should be on the boat within 2 weeks
2. strapping 2 1000.1Ds will give you 2000 watts at 2ohms. the 2200.1D will give you 2382 at 1ohm (at least the 4 samples i tested did)
3. 2XL15's can take up to 2600 for burps (if you want to use more, and they don't burn on you, please let me know. I would LOVE to recommend more power)
4. no. not yet. I can tell you that the ASA amps will look almost identical but with rounded corners. Also, I have changed the adhesives and coil material for all voice coils so they should be able to handle more heat (as long as the factory bakes the coils the way I tell them to)
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oh, and Tinted; carry a fire extinguisher with you. I do, and my installation is better than factory. You never know what's going to happen when you're dealing with thousands of watts. 746 watts equals one horsepower. Think, you're using enough power to run a riding lawn mower, or a small moped. Safety is the key. It's only $8 american ($75,000 canadian) for a small kitchen sized fire extinguisher.
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nope, weak american dollar. And the fact that the canadian dollar is almost equal to the american dollar yet the prices haven't changed for anything we (as a nation) export. I laugh at myself all the time, this is one of those times.
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power ratting is changed ALOT by box design. just because it handled that much power in 1 persons install dosent mean it will handle it in urs. there is alot of different issues, like amp driving it, what is the dampening factor,how much distortion,cabin vol,temp inside the car. too many varibles.
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quote:Originally posted by powerbassusa: so, in theory, you were giving aver 4000 watts of power to a sub rated at 1000rms. Yeah, I don't see a quality issue there.
I doubt it was anywhere near 4000 watts. Even if it was wired at .5 ohms when you figure in the box rise it was probably well above 1.5 to 2 ohms. So the sub more than likely wasn't even seeing 2000 watts. Just because an amp says that it will do 2000 watts at 1 ohm doesn't mean it's going to always run at 1 ohm. If you could get the reactive load that low then yes I'm sure you would see that kind of power out of the amp, but since it was playing various types of tones and below tuning there is no way that amp was just sitting at .5, it was probably even higher than 2 ohms at some points.
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