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Discuss.,........I assume its Tommy they are talking about
To: All IASCA Judges, Competitors, Sanctioned Event Coordinators and Promoters From: IASCA Worldwide Inc. Subject: Hearing Protection Protocol. Date: April 3, 2008
Since its inception, IASCA has promoted the “Practice Safe Sound” message. We feel it is absolutely essential to warn our constituency to the dangers of extreme SPL and the permanent hearing damage that could result in listening to such extreme SPL without protection. IASCA IdBL Rules, page IdBL-4, bullet point 1, identifies our corporate position regarding the use of hearing protection. When competing in any SPL format while sitting inside the vehicle, competitors MUST WEAR HEARING PROTECTION shielding their ears from sound pressure levels generated during competition. Systems capable of exceeding 150dB must be operated by external controls from outside of the vehicle.
Also the competitor’s signature on the score sheet is a requirement, indicating their understanding and acceptance of IASCA’s limitation of liability against personal injury. It has become evident that this policy is not being strictly applied and enforced by Judges and IASCA authorized promoters. Our exposure last weekend to a YouTube video taken at an IASCA sanctioned event has left us astonished. It revealed a competitor sitting inside his vehicle during SPL competition, his windshield shattered due to an SPL level in excess of 150 dB, all the while WITHOUT WEARING HEARING PROTECTION. There is absolutely no excuse for this negligence. We have received a number of emails from concerned parties from as far away as Australia condemning this practice with the assumption that IASCA condones these actions. Nothing could be further from the truth; imagine our dismay. This video has prompted action by this association to re issue our mandates and circumvent any further violation of IASCA policy.
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nothing to worry about iasca forgot about WI so i forgot about them.
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Brad, these waivers are common among all extreme sports. Liability insurance companies demand them! The issue you run into is: a: Was the competitor or complaintent authorized to sign such document? b: Is there culpable neglect? Various big name companies have been through this issue and legal presedence established!
CYA! Sean
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it's common sense . i've been at this games quit a few years and highly recommend hearing protection even below 150 don't get me wrong ,i LOVE extreme powerful bass at least as much as the next guy .i've beaten up my ears long enough to know better .
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i think its funny how iasca will put out a email like that when the big shots were at the show watching the whole thing go down and not one of them said a thing at that point in time..."Our exposure last weekend to a YouTube video taken at an IASCA sanctioned event has left us astonished". lol that needs the bs flag flown...
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why does it matter if the competitor is fine with it then the judges should be too, its not their ears so why should they have any say in anything?
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quote:Originally posted by adam212: why does it matter if the competitor is fine with it then the judges should be too, its not their ears so why should they have any say in anything?
Because everybody is sue happy these days.. and if Drag doesn't require me to wear protection, and I rupture an ear drum while inside my car, guess who I'm filing a lawsuit against..
I think as long as theres some kind of clause, or document you have to sign, that says they REQUIRE you to wear protection.. and you dont.. (but they don't dq you or anything like that for it) and you rupture something, it's your problem, not theirs..
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quote:Originally posted by adam212: why does it matter if the competitor is fine with it then the judges should be too, its not their ears so why should they have any say in anything?
Because everybody is sue happy these days.. and if Drag doesn't require me to wear protection, and I rupture an ear drum while inside my car, guess who I'm filing a lawsuit against..
how in the hell can a competitor sue the competition organization?
it's their choice to not wear protection.. thats just goes to show that everyone there is all LAWSUIT HAPPY..lets see what we can squeeze out of the other guy... lol...SAD
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Trelo - Exactly... everybody is sue happy, and if severe damage was done to someone.. you KNOW they would file a lawsuit... pathetic as it may be, it's bound to happen
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how the hell is it the responsibility of the competitive organization.. how pathetic of an individual must you be to file a suit like that..
maybe I should retract that question..because there are bound to be some pathetic pieces of **** that would try and make a dime like that..
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quote:Originally posted by Brad Eubank: that should be the responsibility of the individual.
That's what most people say about seatbelts. However, it's law now. I believe it's up to each individual, but like others have said, we live in a sue, sue, sue world.
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quote:Originally posted by Brad Eubank: that should be the responsibility of the individual.
That's what most people say about seatbelts. However, it's law now. I believe it's up to each individual, but like others have said, we live in a sue, sue, sue world.
Not quite a sue, sue, sue world but rather country
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I think a lot of it might have to be with other people watching, aka kids/teenagers. But I never wore hearing protection when I sat in other competitors vehicles when I was 16ish years old though. With all the competitors in these organizations I don't think hearing protection is going to matter anyway. Some people have been doing this stuff for 10-20 years. IASCA is making it sound like like the competitors are smoking crack at the shows. That would be something to get "astonished" about.
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they are just watching there backs is all it sounds like to me.
it's like wearing a seatbelt i refuse but it is the law and i have been fined, can i complain not really i knew about it...
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Never read such a crock of **** in my life. If someone chooses to sit in their own car without ear muffs, it's their decision. Things are just ridiculous these days.
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quote:Originally posted by Charger: Never read such a crock of **** in my life. If someone chooses to sit in their own car without ear muffs, it's their decision. Things are just ridiculous these days.
You are very right.. but look at it as a business owner.. every business, no matter what they do/are.. has to cover their ass from everything..
It's kind of like me going to work and not wearing my safety glasses.. if I get hurt, it's my own fault, because they have rules in place.... or something along those lines.
And just to clear up an earlier posting by myself.. I would not be one to sue dbdra, I know what I'm walking into when I get into my car without earplugs..
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I've never heard of someone wrecking their car then sue the car company for making the car too fast, same thing should apply to SPL comps. I think as long as there's a big sign that says "ear protection is strongly recommended" no one can sue, just like those airbag and seatbelt death/injury warning sticker that you see in cars.
But first I need to reach 150dB...
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phobia - for car speeds, the speed limit is posted up .. ("big rule sign") so therefore, I agree that a sign up that says something about hearing protection would work..
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