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All in the same circuit. here let me paste it from the other forum... (it is 9 12s) Does this hurt anything. To me I wouldn't think so. I just installed some pioneer tsw307' 12's with 200 watts each. I can clank the hell out of the subs on some low notes. And it isn't a constant clank... It is like a pulsing off and on. The subs are way under powered in a 4th order. Can't go into enclosure details but the sealed chamber is 1.33 cubes for each sub. i had one of these in 1 cube on the sealed side with 600 rms going to it and NO clanking from the sub.. KKinda confused. Somebody had mentioned doing that with the wiring can cause nonlinear movement . The subs are all wired in series to 1 ohm each. then para up to 3 ohm per set of 3 then series at the 1 amp to 1 ohm. Any ideas why this may be.
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I would double check to make sure all subs are in phase with each other. Grab a 9volt battery and watch the subs when you tap the connections that go the amp.
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what are all the subs voice coils, if u mean some subs are wired paraellel, and some are in series then they are paraelled again there s gonna be problems, cause the series subs wired up is more resistense then coils in paraellel
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hmmm. battery popped them when they went in. Explain what problems hard hitter and anybody else have input
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thats some thought, make sure they are all in phase, thats what is sounds like...what are your coil configurations,and final load at amp??....sounds like AZ_SS has it right...seems like the phase is off with one or two, i would make sure ur series bridge, is going positive to negitive, on each one u ran that way, and make sure your paraellel bridge consists of all positives on one side...all negitives on the other, when you poped them do they all follow the same direction...going inward, i thought going inward meant there 180 out of phase...every time i poped mine with a 9v they all stick out...not go inward
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on the 9v battery...if ur doing positive to positive negitive to negitive, with ur speaker leads to the battery,it should pop out....if you take ur leads to hook it to the 9v backward positive to negitive...and negitive to positive it should pop in, so its my understanding u got it wired wrong
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you seem confused. SERIES increases resistance. PARALLEL decreases.
ok, first of all, are the subs the Dual4ohm or Dual2ohm version? I would assume they are the dual2ohm, each sub is setup with the voicecoils in parallel to 1ohm per sub, then series 3subs in a group to 3ohm, then parallel 3 groups to 1ohm final.
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thats what i said in my first post series increases resistence...
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meant out. I can switch phase switch just in case. or may just turn subsonic up till it is figured out
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don t chance it bro check the wiring....you ll thank yourself later
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First- If you are working with dual 2 ohm coiled speakers, wire EACH SPEAKERS COILS in PARALLEL (where the positive of one coil is connected to the positve of the other coil and the negatives are connected together for EACH SPEAKER) *this will make each sub into a one ohm driver*
Second- SERIES each group of three subs. (where the Main POS is connected to the POS Terminal on sub #1, - a wire is then connected FROM the NEGATIVE terminal of SUB #1 to the POSITIVE of SUB #2, - ANOTHER piece of wire is connected to the NEGATIVE Terminal of SUB #2 To the POSITIVE terminal of SUB #3.
And The NEGATIVE of sub #3 is connected to the MAIN Negative lead for that group of three subs.
You should have a chain effect between the three subs linked by a wire at alternating terminals.
Third - Get your three Main POSITIVES from your groups of three subs and connect them TOGETHER as they go to your Amps POS Terminal.
Then do the same with the three MAIN NEGS from your groups of three subs.
If you are uncertain, do the battery test for Each group of three subs mains. Each group of three should move in the same direction. Add another group of three then test. The group of six (two groups of three) Should move in the same direction Then add the last group and test again..... They should all move the same way.
If they continue to pop, it may be that the sealed chamber is either too big, or one of your subs suspension is shot.
If they are all popping....hmm....
I hope I didn't confuse you. If so, draw it out and remember; you are first doing pos to pos, neg to neg on each sub, then making chained groups of three, then combining the three main pos together as well as the three neg. that the amp will feed.
excuse the novel, Good luck!
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good i couldn t type all that before my fingers would ...hurt, but he s right that is the easiest and best way,first 3 subs and second 3 paraelled, then take the first 3 and series it with the second group of 3 (subs)
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