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dr_hypothesis
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I did some experimenting today and sat in the passenger seat in my car. Why is it SO much quieter than the driver's side?

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Is it because my head is by the port all the time? Cause it doesn't seem like **** in the passenger seat. It sounds better (can't hear the driver's side door shake) but seems like it would be an embarassment on the Termlab.

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Its the design for spl. It seems that way because of the way the ouput is to be directed more towards the passengers side, ie at the dash windshield.
if you put the port on the top,middle or bottom you would notice a difference in both passengers and drivers side. they would be more equal.
I am sure someone will come on here and tell you in more detail what is happeneing. [Wink]

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I can hear that sitting behind the computer

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that looks really good.

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Your port is WAYYYYYYY too small....

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the wave from the port and the wave from the subs usually dont align until they hit the windshield, (if designed correct for SPL)

So, you are experienceing phase issues between the subs and port.

Sit on the passenger side again and put your head up on the dash, It should be louder.

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Box is 15 cubes after displacement, 35 hz tune, 200" of port.

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quote:
Originally posted by lmanosteel875:
the wave from the port and the wave from the subs usually dont align until they hit the windshield, (if designed correct for SPL)

So, you are experienceing phase issues between the subs and port.

Sit on the passenger side again and put your head up on the dash, It should be louder.

After comparing some other songs the difference isn't as drastic as it seemed before, but there is one. Putting my head closer to the dash it does get louder, also between both lines of subs, there is a difference in output as well. It hurts in the driver's seat.

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Open that port up and it will always hertz
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imo, you need more power. you're sending only 600ish rms to each sub.
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Did I menton the port is too small?

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I gues the first question is, are you using this as a ground pounder, or strict SPL competition.

If for SPL, the push all those subs as close to the passenger side as possible and open up that port and round out the edges. No hard corners in the port or behind the subs.

I gained almost 2 dB when I rounded all of my corners in my wall.

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quote:
Originally posted by VegaS10:
Did I menton the port is too small?

No. lol

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Since noone has said it I will,

Your port is too small.

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This is strictly for daily/ground pounding. How much bigger should I go for with the port? If I went up to 250-300" of port then that's going to kill my box size because of the displacement. This box that's in there now was a comprimise of everything that still seemed okay to me. I don't really want to tune above 35hz.

As for more power, maybe in a couple months I'll be trying to pick up a Goliath and some extra batts. Just don't have that much money at the moment.

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Oops, nevermind. Was just using WinISD and I wouldn't have to add all that much length if I opened the port up to around 275-300" of inches. Would be a little tougher, but defnitiely doable.

Anybody have any suggestions as to much how much port area I should go for?

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Move ALL the subs to the pass side as far as you can.

Make the rest port.

Experiment with length to sound/burp as you like.

Screw WinISD. Use your ears and a meter to make it happen...

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Also, any advice on cancellation? Or am I just gonna get what I get?

When opening one or both doors there is a crapload more output.

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Rounding of your box internals will help greatly. Plus, playing with port depth will allow different tuning for different applications.

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That looks pretty badass by the way..

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This was my second attempt at a wall. Still have a lot to learn I guess. Thanks for the help VegaS10, when I do my rebuild, I'll use your suggestions.

Now if only I had a Termlab...

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