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Originally posted by augustijnen Peter:
panda's arent 3+ db's louder

the higher the freq the better the windshield holds
roll up volume helps also
my window is stil fine at 169.8 71hz

what i think also is a bigg difference on the window is that its flat
it can flex both ways

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So pandas go both ways...I knew they didnt seem right

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Originally posted by dropbottommazda:
Only thing i noticed ,by watching alot of the euro finals was every car was a panda <and we all know that the panda is 3+ db louder ,depending on the class >but i do have a question ,i saw the SS 1-2 car burp a 169.9<not picking on that competitor> with no windshield issues or any other issue that i could see ...to me theres no way even @ 79 hzs for that car to hold that number ..i dont see a CRX holding that kind of number in any class ...Not trying to start anything ,just curious

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Flat window in a rubber gasket (NOT glued), that is the reason why it is staying in one piece...

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2004: 153.2dB @ dB-Drag Street A certified
2005: 156,5dB @ dB-Drag Street A certified / 159.1dB @ IDBL Stock 1 worldrecord
2006:157.5 dB @ dB-Drag Street A certified
2007: 158.2 dB Worldrecord Street A / 158.3 dB @ dB-Drag Street A certified
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Originally posted by augustijnen Peter:
didnt murilo use the box that came with the car that jordy bought ?

and besides that if he's so skilled why did he come on msn asking me for port dimension to use on his box

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Why did you help him then? I don't know who honestly helped Murilo with his car, all I know is that it got loud in a season. If he's had help then why would some of the people that want to be secretive about their cars be the first ones to help him?

I really don't care if anyone shows anything really. I just wanted to see what's been kicking our asses year in and year out is all. I have no intentions to steal anything from anyone and never will. I build and design my own enclosures and those who copy or steal should feel really good about themselves knowing that they had to rip someone off to get where they are.

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To be honestly Peter also helped me and gave me tips to build a box! But it took me some boxes and a whole year to get the design loud!

When I read now some posts (in other threats) against Peter on the forum it makes me realy angry, because he is a real great guy!

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2008 Street B: 160 dbzzzz
2009 Street B: 160,8 dbzzzz
2010 Street B: 160,6 dbzzzz

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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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Add 300hours of testing to his car, as I did it only this year, than you might can add 1db.
And the 450-500hours i did last year brings him the second one!

I tell you something about loud doors! Than maybe you understand where the hours went to....
Damp the doors -> test!
remove the damp and damp with other material -> test if its louder, if not try 3rd damping
Try 2mm outside and 2mm inside, hold the door while burping, hold the window while burping....and so on

Woooow, 1 months later your doors are about 0,2 louder


To quote Al Pacino in any given sunday:

"...So is football. Because in either game, life or football, the margin for error is so small -- I mean one-half a step too late, or too early, and you don’t quite make it. One-half second too slow, too fast, you don’t quite catch it.

The inches we need are everywhere around us.

They’re in every break of the game, every minute, every second.

On this team, we fight for that inch. On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch, because we know when we add up all those inches that’s gonna make the ****in' difference between winning and losing! Between livin' and dyin'! !"

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2009 Street B: 160,8 dbzzzz
2010 Street B: 160,6 dbzzzz

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Originally posted by augustijnen Peter:
didnt murilo use the box that came with the car that jordy bought ?

and besides that if he's so skilled why did he come on msn asking me for port dimension to use on his box

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WOAH now... I need to clarify something here.

The box Murilo is using didn't come with my car.

My car came over just as a regular Panda. No sound deadening, no wire, not even a radio in it! I had to do *everything* myself!

The box Murilo is using came over in a Yuli's Marbella.

I used it for 1 show (last years world finals) and the only modification that were done to it was that the top plate was made to fit 2 x 10's instead of 2 x 12's.

When I was done with the box at WF's it went back home with Yuli and was then sold to Murilo when he bought the Bella.

This has never been *MY* box. I only had my hands on it for about 48 hours.

I think even TJ had it for longer than I did!!

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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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Jordy has never given Murilo a box... get your story straight man

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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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Jordy has never given Murilo a box... get your story straight man

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ya ya ya well it was suposed to go back to yo and he keep it lol so get it back and be happy or im just going to have to build ya one like they are saying they are not usen know lol

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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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It is so hard to say,
Congrats guys you really work hard to you'r cars.....

Is this the respect that we get, to be named a a couple cheater's.

We all need to pull everything out for judging, if we start THE USA story i can make point's like you also.
If i remember right i heard some rumor's about polyester panels

I am sure if we could use a CRX like you guys do we still do a really nice score........
But the point is that we CAN'T we need to import one with usa licence.....

So why should we do it if we have a panda, and if you guys are motivated enough you buy a panda and show us how easy it is.

About the cheater story of europe, YOU GUYS ARE INVITED TO COME TO EUROPE COMPETITION TO LOOK INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ON A FORUM......

i don't care to put a pic this is our install 159,2 DB street a
And yes pic is taken without backseat in before someone start complaining.


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2006 TEAM T&T SS1-2
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2008 STREET A 157.7
2009 STREET A 159,1
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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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It is so hard to say,
Congrats guys you really work hard to you'r cars.....

Is this the respect that we get, to be named a a couple cheater's.

We all need to pull everything out for judging, if we start THE USA story i can make point's like you also.
If i remember right i heard some rumor's about polyester panels

I am sure if we could use a CRX like you guys do we still do a really nice score........
But the point is that we CAN'T we need to import one with usa licence.....

So why should we do it if we have a panda, and if you guys are motivated enough you buy a panda and show us how easy it is.

About the cheater story of europe, YOU GUYS ARE INVITED TO COME TO EUROPE COMPETITION TO LOOK INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ON A FORUM......

i don't care to put a pic this is our install 159,2 DB street a
And yes pic is taken without backseat in before someone start complaining.

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bro first off i would like to say nice set up.
see what i have a prob with is that we here lots of things over here from pepole over there i wont name names this is not me.

but what i will say is that i have herd of doors being modded and inner skins being cut off to put mat in and re welded back on and cleand up and repainted to look like nothing has happend.

also i know of guys that have re welded there roof bracing and added a few extra tacks.

also the guys with this sound dampining past doing the 4mm of it and then adding 4 mm of matt to it the past hardens like a rock so when the needel trick is done ya you get the black from the mat on the needle but the needle dont go into the sound dampning past due to it being hard as a rock.

also i know of guys that take and seal off there vents on there cars but yet i dont see any tests being done to show they are not sealed up

its **** like this that im talking about you all know who you are doing it and trust me i know as well. this type of stuff is the whole resion rules are put into play.

Thanks for the invite to come over and hang out and go to some shows maybe i will take ya up on this invite next yr.

I just dont like cheeters caus i know if i did this to my car ya im going to see some gains as well but this is a joke that there are pepole out there that are doing this and getting away with it all i have to say is.

your day will come and i hope you get labeld as a cheeter. lord knows if it was me i would be marked as one.

Thanks for posting the pic i like it and i hope you all under stand why im saying what im saying im not calling any one out but but they know who they are like i say one day they will get cought.

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Originally posted by Nightshade:

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Originally posted by augustijnen Peter:
didnt murilo use the box that came with the car that jordy bought ?

and besides that if he's so skilled why did he come on msn asking me for port dimension to use on his box

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Why did you help him then? I don't know who honestly helped Murilo with his car, all I know is that it got loud in a season. If he's had help then why would some of the people that want to be secretive about their cars be the first ones to help him?

I really don't care if anyone shows anything really. I just wanted to see what's been kicking our asses year in and year out is all. I have no intentions to steal anything from anyone and never will. I build and design my own enclosures and those who copy or steal should feel really good about themselves knowing that they had to rip someone off to get where they are.

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To be honestly Peter also helped me and gave me tips to build a box! But it took me some boxes and a whole year to get the design loud!

When I read now some posts (in other threats) against Peter on the forum it makes me realy angry, because he is a real great guy!

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Originally posted by Tim Verheij:

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Originally posted by Old/School:
first off ya murilo is usen that box that jordy gave him with my lil twist in it i re did that box over just about from scratch and it is doing well for him so know that we are on the same page.

i know some are cheeting over there look at murilos score and add 2db i can tell ya right where its comes from If i rember what i read from some one posting in here Them are the loud doors.

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It is so hard to say,
Congrats guys you really work hard to you'r cars.....

Is this the respect that we get, to be named a a couple cheater's.

We all need to pull everything out for judging, if we start THE USA story i can make point's like you also.
If i remember right i heard some rumor's about polyester panels

I am sure if we could use a CRX like you guys do we still do a really nice score........
But the point is that we CAN'T we need to import one with usa licence.....

So why should we do it if we have a panda, and if you guys are motivated enough you buy a panda and show us how easy it is.

About the cheater story of europe, YOU GUYS ARE INVITED TO COME TO EUROPE COMPETITION TO LOOK INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ON A FORUM......

i don't care to put a pic this is our install 159,2 DB street a
And yes pic is taken without backseat in before someone start complaining.

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car was judged at world finales

they had to take off some screws and they did that also they put the back seat in and was also oke by judging

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2007 street A 156.1
2008 street max 159.9
2008 super street 3-4 168.1
2009 street max 163.2 with 2 amps
2009 super street 3-4 168.3
2009 street B 161 and world champion

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Originally posted by Old/School:

your day will come and i hope you get labeld as a cheeter. lord knows if it was me i would be marked as one.

Thanks for posting the pic i like it and i hope you all under stand why im saying what im saying im not calling any one out but but they know who they are like i say one day they will get cought.

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I looked on your statpage and now i understand your problem!
Go into the garage and work on your car to get it loud instead of talking so much bull**** here!

2 weeks ago we got a 155 out of a Seat Leon, 2 x 12" GZ subs @ one stetsom amp @ 50Hz!
and this was done during waiting that our batts were charged

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2008 Street B: 160 dbzzzz
2009 Street B: 160,8 dbzzzz
2010 Street B: 160,6 dbzzzz

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Originally posted by Old/School:

your day will come and i hope you get labeld as a cheeter. lord knows if it was me i would be marked as one.

Thanks for posting the pic i like it and i hope you all under stand why im saying what im saying im not calling any one out but but they know who they are like i say one day they will get cought.

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I looked on your statpage and now i understand your problem!
Go into the garage and work on your car to get it loud instead of talking so much bull**** here!

2 weeks ago we got a 155 out of a Seat Leon, 2 x 12" GZ subs @ one stetsom amp @ 50Hz!
and this was done during waiting that our batts were charged

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I like this reply!
When i've starting with my marbella the score was a little bit over 150db after a lot of work the score goes up!but without alot of work the score can't go up!

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i don't care to put a pic this is our install 159,2 DB street a
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i don't care to put a pic this is our install 159,2 DB street a
And yes pic is taken without backseat in before someone start complaining.

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How much do you gain with those powerbars? The surely are stiffer than standard powerwire.. [/QB]

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I don´t think its a gain, only a price question
50mm² (0/1 gauge) car hifi wires costs in europe about 10€/m ~ 14$
Powerbars are alot cheaper and if you have good conection maybe free

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2008 Street B: 160 dbzzzz
2009 Street B: 160,8 dbzzzz
2010 Street B: 160,6 dbzzzz

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