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Ok guys I think this is rediculous so I have to speak out. Street classes are alienating the new competitors for dbdrag. I don't know why the rules were changed to what they are now but they are retarded. True they don't have many loopholes but I personally beleive that they need to be changed because street is the life blood of dbdrag and if people aren't getting into it then dbdrag will die. We need to change the rules for next year to allow more leaway in terms of install...in other words get rid of the rules that seats need to be in even if factory removable and let people put their box on folded down seats if they want to. The rules were changed years ago so minivans couldn't dominate street, the CRX is way past what was done in minivans. We need to change the rules to at least give people the illusion they can be competative. The local guy who comes out and gets smoked by 4 CRXs will never return to dbdrag unless you give them some glimmer of hope that they can have enough flexability to make their current car work. Let people put their box whereever they want so long as its below the windows. If we don't increase the diversity back into street class it will die, also that said it was better for the sport when minivans were king because there are alot more people with vans out there than CRXs. Just my opinion, let the flaming begin
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2008 Spring Break Nationals Street B Champion 153.2dB 2008 dBDrag North American Finals 3rd Place Street A 155.0dB
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i agree with what you said about being fair to the locals, but at the same time, its a competition. my whole outlook is if you cant compete, dont go to a competition.
btw - dont take what i said the wrong way.
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I don't take it the wrong way, I am going to buy a CRX most likely. But what I am saying is that there is no reason anymore to be limiting where people can put there box, by eliminating those rules as long as it stay below the window line it would open the door for a few more types of vehicle to do well and that is what is needed in order for new people to want to continue competing. People go to shows and even if they lose they see cars like theirs doing well and then they try to change to do well also. If everyone has a CRX that doesn't happen we need more diversity
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2008 Spring Break Nationals Street B Champion 153.2dB 2008 dBDrag North American Finals 3rd Place Street A 155.0dB
A user of many brands of gear whose name cannot be said Posts: 3170 | From: Canada | Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:Originally posted by ShockingCanada: Ok guys I think this is rediculous so I have to speak out. Street classes are alienating the new competitors for dbdrag. I don't know why the rules were changed to what they are now but they are retarded.
I agree for the most part. The battery issue did me in. SBN has never had so few Street guys there that I can remember.
I also agree other vehicles could be very competitive in Street if the boxes could lay on the seats. Im not sure if I agree this should be done, however. I personally saw a Civic hatch get 1.1 dB louder than a Rex with the same equipment, but the enclosure was on the rear seat.
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well let me tell you alot more people have civics than CRXs so it would be a step in the right direction if civic dominates lol. I also agree another problem is that the equipment cost is too high but unfortunately I see almost no way around it. The only way would be to require a dbdrag manufactured fuse to be places in line and the fuse varies depending on the class or something like that. If they started to limit amps again you would just get another zapco 4kw being made so thats not really a great option
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2008 Spring Break Nationals Street B Champion 153.2dB 2008 dBDrag North American Finals 3rd Place Street A 155.0dB
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that is the attitude that will kill dbdrag. you need to have street class be the entry level. Once you get into superstreet I agree you gotta pay the price but in street class they need to make it appeal to more people. The attitude you gott pay 10grand to win is what makes old people retire and keeps new people from joining = you are killing dbdrag
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2008 Spring Break Nationals Street B Champion 153.2dB 2008 dBDrag North American Finals 3rd Place Street A 155.0dB
A user of many brands of gear whose name cannot be said Posts: 3170 | From: Canada | Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:Originally posted by AudioAnonymous: You gotta pay to play. If you want to be on top you have to dedicate alot of your time and money to the sport. There's no way around it.
Thanks Captain Obvious.
There could be some other alternative vehicle choices besides CRX's and Pandas though. Certainly would shake street up if back seat enclosures were allowed.
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You still have to buy big amps and nice speakers as well as alot of building material. But I suppose with that attitude (the truth) I'm killing it.
Captain Obvious strikes again?
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quote:Originally posted by AudioAnonymous: You still have to buy big amps and nice speakers as well as alot of building material.
No shyt.
Allowing alternative vehicles to have a prayer of winning will be good for the sport. I could care less about the cost of amps, subs, wire, etc. I'd rather see a wide variety of loud vehicles as opposed to fifty CRX's lined up.
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Being new to the sport, only competing for a year in IASCA, which I do not support anymore.
Do you think DB drag needs to develope some sort of a rookie class to attract new members and make it more competative?
I know in the new org I am in team northeast spl, we did that and have a ton of new members (streetbeaters) with inexpensive systems that will be competing. They way it is structured is to make it as fair as possible and competative.
Maybe DB drag should try this? Do you think it would help some??
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I hear what you saying SHOCKING CANADA.....Pm me for details......Changing Street Classes is not the answer.....
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if your willing to spend thousands of dollars on equipment you should be willing to spend thousands of dollars on the car itself to be competitive.
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but people want to drive nice cars with nice stereos so they don't mind investing in the stereo...people don't want to drive CRXs unless they are hardcore and noone becomes hardcore because they are scared away before that
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2008 Spring Break Nationals Street B Champion 153.2dB 2008 dBDrag North American Finals 3rd Place Street A 155.0dB
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ahhh i have been seeing this for awhile now, it goes way beyond rules, there is just not the intrest at the moment in this game, it goes to lack of mfg support,lack of bringing in new members by members,no true rewards,no good coverage by zines,to many shows? high gas prices,to many sactions? just a start. i have seen this in other sports they have up's and down's
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lol trailering a vehicle ins't going to bring people into the sport. We need a dbdrag class that isn't all trail queens. Bass race is all well and good but doesn't bring people to dbdrag because the two are nothing alike.
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I hear ya once again Loud and Clear Mr Canada....WE need you b/c people like you that care are what is gonna save this sport....The real quesiton is how to save the sport, but I believe I can help you out with that......... Posts: 4564 | From: Carolinas, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
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quote:Originally posted by ShockingCanada: Ok guys I think this is rediculous so I have to speak out. Street classes are alienating the new competitors for dbdrag. I don't know why the rules were changed to what they are now but they are retarded.
I agree for the most part. The battery issue did me in. SBN has never had so few Street guys there that I can remember.
yep i was gonna compete in street c this year had 2 amps and 4 subs already then wayne posted the rules werent gonna change and everyone keeps saying it so i just returned the amps and got my money back and sold the subs locally. i am not gona spend $3000 on batteries plus thousands more on equipment on a system i will rarely use and get no type of return other then a 3-5 place trophy at local shows!
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the whole car audio scene is almost dead, i don't think it has anything to do with db drag itself.
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