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Its really effecting Johnny Ko, he just had to buy that corvette...

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I have to buy a new sub, the economy blew my old one. [Frown]

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I have to buy a new sub, the economy blew my old one. [Frown]

Had to have been Bush's fault!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyKo12:
sh1t, you guys sound like whiny little kids. This is about as cool to argue about as 2 toolbags arguing over what would be cooler to own, the millenium falcon or a tie fighter (i think those are the names, lol) NERRRRRRRRRDS!!

Lets just all stfu and agree on something we all know as fact.....

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WTH ghey ass box is that in the back seat?

But seriously, the only way I see this post getting better, is pics of johnny's sister. I for one demand shower pics! Maybe one where she is just wearing a suit shirt(I have a fetish, feed it).

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jarfunkz...

I don't have the time to baby you here.

go back to your first post, and explain what you meant, and why you used the words as you did. (those first two sentences). because what you said and what you meant when you posted that des NOT match what you poasted later. I just want you to be able to understand and diagnose your own writing problems... and I'm busy.

but I will address this now:

"You said the difference was one was a noun and one was a verb. Your link said both were nouns and transitive verbs."

What I was referring to in my first post was your misuse of the words (you made no reference to affect as a noun, or effect as a verb-- even though you tried to use it as one. Both effect and affect as you used them were actually both the verb affect.). You used the definition of the verb affect, but spelled it effect. It did not carry the meaning of the verb effect, so I did not mention it. I would have counted your mistake as a simple typing error had you not drawn so much attention to your misunderstanding of the differences between affect and effect. You used the noun effet as a verb. Then you attempted to say that you meant that, when you used effect as a verb, you meant it to carry the definition of the verb effect- BUT you are ignoring that you did not use the verb effect as the verb effect- you merely substituted the verb effect in the place of the word affect. and STILL, after you read the link that I posted that (IMO) explains it clearly and comncisely, you don't get it. LOL!

how can you read the definitions of the nouns and verbs of effect and affect, and their differences... and STILL attempt to use them interchangeably? what is it about these two wrods that makes it so hard for you to understand the differences?

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quote:
Originally posted by Iconoclast:
jarfunkz...

I don't have the time to baby you here.

go back to your first post, and explain what you meant, and why you used the words as you did. (those first two sentences). because what you said and what you meant when you posted that des NOT match what you poasted later. I just want you to be able to understand and diagnose your own writing problems... and I'm busy.

but I will address this now:

"You said the difference was one was a noun and one was a verb. Your link said both were nouns and transitive verbs."

What I was referring to in my first post was your misuse of the words. You used the noun effet as a verb. Then you attempted to say that you meant that, when you used effect as a verb, you meant it to carry the definition of the verb effect- BUT you are ignoring that you did not use the verb effect as the verb effect- you merely substituted the verb effect in the place of the word affect. and STILL, after you read the link that I posted that (IMO) explains it clearly and comncisely, you don't get it. LOL!

how can you read the definitions of the nouns and verbs of effect and affect, and their differences... and STILL attempt to use them interchangeably? what is it about these two wrods that makes it so hard for you to understand the differences?

You also don't have time to actually make sense or give a good argument for your post. Your link completely agreed with me. Affect has more to do with and innate/idea/emotional influence. Sorry, but it does, you disputed that and got proven wrong.

I never said they could be used interchangeably. If you interpreted that, then please go back to my comprehension post.

I have always said that they could both be used in either form, being a noun and a verb. You disputed that and your link said you were wrong.

I get that you hate losing an argument, you want to save what ever face on the forum that you can. But it still doesn't elude the fact that you were wrong with both your assumptions and your interpretations of the words themselves and what I wrote.

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"your link completely agreed with me"

no, it showed exactly what you did wrong.

"I never said they could be used interchangeably"

true.. you never said "they can be used interchangeably..." BUT you did use them interchangeably.

"more to do with.. blah blah"

hahaha ok, I'll post your sentences again and define effect/affect AGAIN

"Affecting would be more psychological unseen innate type of change. Such as I am very sad about the economy.

Effecting would be more physiological change that can be seen. Such as losing your house, your car getting repo'd."

verb affect: "to produce an effect upon, as a: to produce a material influence upon or alteration in" (~to change)

this was the question in the thread, and the definition of both effect and affect as you used them

verb effect: "to cause to come into being" (~to create)

it didn't create sth... it CHANGED, thus the definition of affect. you even used the word "change" in your sentence. It didn't cause a unit of "your car getting repo'd" to come into being.

"you disputed that they could be used in either form, noun or verb" (paraphrased"

when? I never said that! I said, AS YOU USED THEM, the word affect was a verb, and you misused effect as a verb, where you meant affect.

in your first post... you used BOTH affect and effect as verbs having this meaning: "to produce an effect upon, as a: to produce a material influence upon or alteration in" (which is the definition of the verb affect). That is simply not how the verb effect is used. Therefore, you used it wrong. very simple.

and I even went so far as to give you an example of how to use the noun effect correctly (since it was apparent that 1 of 2 things confused you: the useage of the verb affect, or the useage of the noun effect). so I covered both. There was no need to being up the other stuff until later, when you claimed that you meant something that you didnt' mean in your first post. And since you didn't understand the basics of affect vs effect, I didn't want to confuse you anymore. Now you've brought them in and your thoroughly confused (in other words, you confused yourself, I was trying to keep it simple).

and if you keep annoying me, I'll correct you on your incorrect use of physiological as well [Embarrassed]

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quote:
Originally posted by jarfunkz:
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Originally posted by JohnnyKo12:
sh1t, you guys sound like whiny little kids. This is about as cool to argue about as 2 toolbags arguing over what would be cooler to own, the millenium falcon or a tie fighter (i think those are the names, lol) NERRRRRRRRRDS!!

Lets just all stfu and agree on something we all know as fact.....

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WTH ghey ass box is that in the back seat?

But seriously, the only way I see this post getting better, is pics of johnny's sister. I for one demand shower pics! Maybe one where she is just wearing a suit shirt(I have a fetish, feed it).

friggin eww!! LOLOL

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^^^ .... hmmm.. suit shirt + johnny's sis = yum!

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I suppose I can go ahead and look stuff up on the internet as well.

You can argue with the APA all you want, but here is their definition. It is definitely has more merit than a single college, being that this would have academia value at ALL colleges.

Affect, like the adjective affective, refers to the experience of feeling or emotion.[1] Affect is a key part of the process of an organism’s interaction with stimuli. The word also refers sometimes to affect display, which is "a facial, vocal, or gestural behavior that serves as an indicator of affect." (APA 2006)

Your link did agree with me. You still stated that (affect is a verb. effect is a noun). Your link disagreed and showed many ways in which both could be used as a noun and the other as a transitive verb. Effect is not only a noun. +1

As your link states, effect could be used. One definition - to cause to come into being <the citizens were able to effect a change in government policy> Notice that you can implement this into what the change of peoples' spending habits are. Keep in mind, this is directly off of your link, used as a transitive verb. +1

As for Affect, from your link - to act upon ( as a person or a person's mind or feelings as a person or a person's mind or feelings) so as to bring about a response. (I took the liberty of italicizing the definition from your link that is exactly what my definition of affect was. +1

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Your link does say effect can be used at a transitive verb as it would suggest change in spending habits, daily activity, etc.

APA completely backs up my definition of affect, as does a definition from your link.

You stated that effect could only be a noun and never cited anywhere that it could be a transitive verb, until you posted your link. You specifically categorized the two words by one being a verb and one being a noun.

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ok.. so let me get this straight.

not only are you still claiming that you used effect correctly as a verb (which I've showed you is simply not correct), BUT you're now claiming that when you used affect as a verb... you misused it as well? You attached the NOUN affact meaning to the VERB affect useage. Now I see what you're doing.. misquoting the OWL site (and whatever site you got the APA definition from) and tried to attack the noun affect meaning to the verb affect useage. it doesn't work like that man. The two words, though spelled the same in base form (affect), are completely unrelated. Its like instead of using the noun affect and attaching it to the verb affect, its like attaching the noun dog to it, and claiming that it means "more like" the canine characteristics of what happened. I understand that the spelling of the noun affect and verb affect confuses you so much. If you still cannot understand, I suggest avoiding them altogether. It will be much less embarassing for you.

you're just embarassing yourself more and more man. just stop and admit defeat. or at least stop defending your comments lol

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"You stated that effect could only be a noun and never cited anywhere that it could be a transitive verb, until you posted your link. You specifically categorized the two words by one being a verb and one being a noun."

ugh, quit misquoting me. its annoying. I've addressed that already.

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quote:
Originally posted by Iconoclast:
"You stated that effect could only be a noun and never cited anywhere that it could be a transitive verb, until you posted your link. You specifically categorized the two words by one being a verb and one being a noun."

ugh, quit misquoting me. its annoying. I've addressed that already.

Here is your quote, I copied and pasted it again, stating I did so again, so there is absolutely no chance of misquoting you. "affect is a verb. effect is a noun." You were wrong.

How am I misquoting anything when I am copy/pasting?

What I did was categorize each word into their definition of nouns and transitive verbs. Which is exactly what your Purdue sit did. How do I know I did this? Read back to where I COPY/PASTE your link. It did happen, no matter how much you state that it didn't.

This copy/paste "Affect, like the adjective affective, refers to the experience of feeling or emotion.[1] Affect is a key part of the process of an organism’s interaction with stimuli. The word also refers sometimes to affect display, which is "a facial, vocal, or gestural behavior that serves as an indicator of affect." (APA 2006)" "Affect, like the adjective affective, refers to the experience of feeling or emotion.[1] Affect is a key part of the process of an organism’s interaction with stimuli. The word also refers sometimes to affect display, which is "a facial, vocal, or gestural behavior that serves as an indicator of affect." (APA 2006)" came from http://en.wikipedia.org whose reference was APA (2006). VandenBos, Gary R., ed. APA Dictionary of Psychology Washington, DC: American Psychological Association, page 26.

Just so you know the quote is well supported, it was indeed published.

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I've addressed your misquote of me, and I'm not doing it again. if you can't comprehend what I wrote, thats your problem. I explained it well.

and about that APA definition.. OK. As I said, thats the definition for the NOUN affect. Its unrelated to the VERB affect. You used it incrrectly.

you still haven't challenged this. you're only supporting what I'm saying.

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johnnys picture is effing hilarious!!!!

And then the sub and bush thing is to!!

Chad whatever happened to selling your box design I was always curious about it and thought it was so funny people got mad at you cause of that LOL


Johnny post picture of corvette burning out with sister half naked [Big Grin] -- who else agrees?

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Chad whatever happened to selling your box design I was always curious about it and thought it was so funny people got mad at you cause of that LOL

Yeah, some folks got mad as hell about that. [Laugh] [Laugh] I thought it was hilarious and I knew I was not gonna compete again. (at least in Street)

Seriously, I picked up about $1000 in less than a month with that! Hell, I worked hard on that enclosure though. Its not easy to tap 155+ with two 12s, two amps, and a single NON MULTI CELL battery. [Cool]

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I know what you mean, I would test for hours trying to get the explored loud but it was so hard, the crx got loud easier but also took allot of work

Ps I might be contacting you soon for some box design help [Wink] $$. For you LOL


Btw johnny we are waiting [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by 1LOUDSUV:
I know what you mean, I would test for hours trying to get the explored loud but it was so hard, the crx got loud easier but also took allot of work

Ps I might be contacting you soon for some box design help [Wink] $$. For you LOL


Btw johnny we are waiting [Smile]

Don't need no cash dude. Just PM me.

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