buy now, while prices are crazy low. it helps the economy... these banks need to liquidate assets... and buying now, at reduced prices, with a weak dollar... investments in real property are going to explode. I wouldn't be surprised at 50% gains in a year.
and you're not investng in a company.. you're investing in something tangible. n matter what happens, its yours. economy crashes... dollar is worthless... doens't matter, you got land.
quote:Originally posted by Broken Silence - Johnny: Handing money to people who have done nothing to deserve it doesn't make me feel better...Hurricanes are a bad deal, but when you live in places where hurricanes happen, that is a chance you take, and you know it when you move there...
Ill remind you of that when you get swept away like dorthy and toto
I'm sure it will happen, and when it does, I won't expect anyone to feel sorry for me. The biggest reason I won't donate any money is because of orgs like the red cross. If I donate $20, maybe $5 of it goes to hurricane relief or whatever I donate for. The other $15 goes mostly to administrative fees and other causes.
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quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast: jarfunkz...
LOL
affect can be a noun... but thats not the word we were talking about-- go ahead, before you make yourself look any dumber, and see if the definition of the noun affect is what you used in your sentence. you used both words incorrectly (first of all, you used both effect and affect as verbs--despite claiming in your second post that both are nouns LOL--, but, though affect is a verb, you incorrectly defined it, and incorrectly limited its meaning). and effect... you simple used it incorrectly as a verb (obviously confusing it with affect).
go back, and read my sentences... its all there. just admit that you're wrong, dude. its not that hard. you're just making yourself look like a moron now.
if you're still in doubt, read the title of the thread. 1loudsuv used affect correctly.
Both can be used in that particular manner. Affect is directly linking to something that can not be seen, such as feelings. Effect can be seen. I know, making myself look like a moron right? You put your neck out on the line and didn't know what you were talking about. M-W disagrees with you.
The manner in which it was used would be your feelings on the subject. Not how it is EFFECTING you. That can be seen, I can't pay my bills because this is effecting me. That is something that can be seen.
quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast: deafy... (not sure exactly what you were getting at... so this might be off target)
I was referring to his ideas in general. What you mentionedis part of it, but he's been puching for off-shore drilling as well, as part of the same plan- to (admittedly) temporarily somewhat lower the price of oil that americans pay at the pump. I think it would pretty much go unnticed (much like the ethanol addition did). all that does is reduce fuel efficiency, kill small engines, and make it rougher on engines thta weren't designed with it in mind... while having no noticed effect of price (at least that I noticed). it caused food prices to go up. it sure didn't affect my spending on gas, or in the economy, or have a significant effect on oil dependency. IMO it was a complete failure across the board.
and for the ideas in general.. yeah, the taxes are needed. and soem ideas like giving everyone $1, instead of spending the colelctive money on developing strategic energy technology isn't bright. So I fully agree with Obama with this one. He is fighting for the opposite of what McCain is for the most part. Although I do like McCain's approval of Nuclear energy- though he doesn't seem to care about how its disposed of
All I brought up was the ONE instance where McCain directly effected me, personally, by lifting the gas tax. Nothing to do with off shore drilling or alternative fuels. It was simply the gas tax that supports my industry/career that he was trying to do away with (temporarily to alleviate the short term $$ issue when Bush pushed for the economic stimulus checks). I was all for McCain until he said that much earlier this year.
again, one point - doing away with the gas tax. nothing to do with offshore drilling or alternative fuels.
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deafy... you only wanted to talk about that one point, ok. but, it has a lot to do with offshore drilling for the reasons I mentioned (as examples). if you just want to talk about one particular point, then ok- but don't say others are unrelated, when you really mean they're not what you're talking about.
quote:Originally posted by jarfunkz: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Iconoclast: [qb] LMAO Jarfunkz!!! dude, you're just getting deeper and deeper hahahahhahaha
see if you can understand this (maybe you can at least read english )
OMG your link completely agreed with me. It is not just reading that you need to do, comprehension is key.
quote Affect and Effect
Meanings for the most common uses: Affect
1. af•fect (transitive verb) [Middle English, from affectus, past participle of afficere]
to produce an effect upon, as a: to produce a material influence upon or alteration in <paralysis affected his limbs> b: to act upon (as a person or a person's mind or feelings) so as to bring about a response; influence
Effect
1. ef•fect (noun) [Middle English, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French, from Latin effectus, from efficere to bring about, from ex- out (of) + facere to make, do]
1a: purport; intent <the effect of their statement was to incite anger> b: basic meaning; essence <her argument had the effect of a plea for justice> 2: something that inevitably follows an antecedent (as a cause or agent) <environmental devastation is one effect of unchecked industrial expansion> 3: an outward sign; appearance <the makeup created the effect of old age on their faces> 4: accomplishment; fulfillment <the effect of years of hard work> 5: power to bring about a result; influence <the content itself of television is therefore less important than its effect> 6 plural: movable property; goods <personal effects> 7a: a distinctive impression <the color gives the effect of being warm> b: the creation of a desired impression <her tears were purely for effect> c (1): something designed to produce a distinctive or desired impression, usually used in plural (2) plural: special effects 8: the quality or state of being operative; operation <the law goes into effect next week>
in effect: in substance; virtually <the committee agreed to what was in effect a reduction in the hourly wage> to the effect: with the meaning <issued a statement to the effect that he would resign>
Meanings for less common uses: Affect:
2. af•fect (transitive verb)
1: to make a display of liking or using; cultivate <affect a worldly manner> 2: to put on a pretense of; feign <affect indifference, though deeply hurt>
3. af•fect (noun) [pronunciation: stress on first syllable, unlike verb forms of this word]
the conscious subjective aspect of an emotion considered apart from bodily changes <he displayed a distressing lack of affect>
Effect
2. ef•fect (transitive verb)
1: to cause to come into being <the citizens were able to effect a change in government policy> 2a: to bring about often by surmounting obstacles; accomplish <effect a settlement of a dispute> b: to put into operation <the duty of the legislature to effect the will of the citizens>
Usage: The confusion of the verbs affect and effect not only is quite common but has a long history. The verb effect was used in place of affect (1, above) as early as 1494 and in place of affect (2, above) as early as 1652. If you think you want to use the verb effect but are not certain, check the definitions here. The noun affect is sometimes mistakenly used for the noun effect. Except when your topic is psychology, you will seldom need the noun affect.
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Disassemble affect. Aff means emotion/feelings. Fect means influencing. Put them together, influencing emotions/feelings. It is ok, when I was in college, many others had problem with it.
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Wow, some things never do change. Nuff said.
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Usually every weekend I spend anywhere from 200-1000 on things I really dont need
feel bad actually going out and shopping while others are struggling.
Mr wanna-b-baller The economy has helped me swoop up a few homes from 150-250K less then they're worth.
ya I am big balling with my $200-1000 lol! now if I would have said $2k-10k a weeek now thats ballin but then I would of said 20k-100k a week is ballin
quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast: lol jarfunkz
you're just joking now... right?
if yes, good, because it was ****ing hilarious!
if not... still hilarious hahahahaha
go on wit cho bad gramma boi
go back to grade school or something man. I'm not a damned teacher. I don't have time to correct all your mistakes. especially when you're ignorant.
What is sad are the ones who think they are educated, but are near the furthest thing from it. The ones who are dumb and know they are, at least they know there is room to improve. I truly feel sorry for you, you posted a link that completely proves what I said about the usage of the words, you should have read the whole thing, thought about it, then perhaps read it again.
educated? wow, you have nice lil complex going on there, don't ya? You screwed up affect and effect.. people do it all the time-- its common! get over it. if that makes you so upset that you have to make up BS stories and change them, just to save your e-peen dignity... thats sad. and funny I'd quit picking on you if you didn't make it sooooo easy
ok. first of all, pick one f your stories that you told. you contradicted yourself constantly. I'm not going to continue your little circle.
and when you do ick a story, I'll just point you to the thread where I showed how that story was wrong.
then, I'm guessing you'll change it again, to either one of your stories above, or perhaps you'll make up another one.
if you really want to be embarassed again, I'll do it. so which story is your choice?
quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast: deafy... you only wanted to talk about that one point, ok. but, it has a lot to do with offshore drilling for the reasons I mentioned (as examples). if you just want to talk about one particular point, then ok- but don't say others are unrelated, when you really mean they're not what you're talking about.
I believe you are commenting on more recent discussions. What you're bringing up has little if not nothing to do with the stimulus package discussions.
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Again, you said effect was a noun. Your source says you are wrong.
Effect
2. ef•fect (transitive verb)
1: to cause to come into being <the citizens were able to effect a change in government policy> 2a: to bring about often by surmounting obstacles; accomplish <effect a settlement of a dispute> b: to put into operation <the duty of the legislature to effect the will of the citizens>
That is all there is to it, you used it incorrectly.
1) Your link contradicts what you said. 2) I gave you a language origin lesson which has the precise translated definition of the routes of affect.
With all the personal types of attacks instead of actually proving your case, may as well admit that you have no idea what you were talking about. The main ingredient that you are missing from your argument is validity. Your one attempt at that proved that effect was also a transitive verb. I do recall you could use both either way, but the substance for what is being influenced was the usage difference.
Looking at a +2 Jarfunkz, 0 iconoclast score here.
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