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Topic: How loud can a pair of 6x9 get?
I'm going to roll with no subs for awhile and right now I have a pair of JBL 5 1/4" components upfront and a pair of JBL 6x9s all getting 25 watts a piece. I plan to quadruple that power soon and I'm wondering if anyone had good experience using just a pair of 6x9s on rear deck to pull off bass duties? I know it's not going to be crazy deep bass but I want as much as possible. -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
Bassphobia
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posted 02-12-2006 03:51 PM
I'm going to roll with no subs for awhile and right now I have a pair of JBL 5 1/4" components upfront and a pair of JBL 6x9s all getting 25 watts a piece. I plan to quadruple that power soon and I'm wondering if anyone had good experience using just a pair of 6x9s on rear deck to pull off bass duties? I know it's not going to be crazy deep bass but I want as much as possible. -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
Posts: 2824 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Nov 2003
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get a sub mang.. -------------------- Team Devastation MMA Machado Brazilian Jiujitsu Once I lock it on theres no escape I dont train to make you tap, I train to tear your arm, leg, or head off. Its your job to tap before I can do that A boxer is a Lion the best predator on land, Im a shark throw them in the ocean where they cant swim and they become just another meal Pain is only weakness leaving the body, its kill or be killed and only the strong survive
Pitbull
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posted 02-12-2006 04:09 PM
get a sub mang.. -------------------- Team Devastation MMA Machado Brazilian Jiujitsu Once I lock it on theres no escape I dont train to make you tap, I train to tear your arm, leg, or head off. Its your job to tap before I can do that A boxer is a Lion the best predator on land, Im a shark throw them in the ocean where they cant swim and they become just another meal Pain is only weakness leaving the body, its kill or be killed and only the strong survive
Posts: 21497 | From: 107 Hoover | Registered: Apr 2001
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Subs will come later and I'm just getting a bigger 4 channel amp for the sake of more volume and match subs when I get them. 25 watts per channel is weak especially when I have a big car. Two 6x9s + ginormous trunk + 200 watts = ???? -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
Bassphobia
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posted 02-12-2006 04:20 PM
Subs will come later and I'm just getting a bigger 4 channel amp for the sake of more volume and match subs when I get them. 25 watts per channel is weak especially when I have a big car. Two 6x9s + ginormous trunk + 200 watts = ???? -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
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I posted in the wrong section didn't I? -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
Bassphobia
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posted 02-12-2006 04:21 PM
I posted in the wrong section didn't I? -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
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^^^ true 6x9's can sound ok, but they will bottom out easy. one song will be fine, and another will have to be turned way down to keep from blowing them. The lower bass is hell on them. Be careful also, they usually smoke pretty quick, and they can't stand it for long-- no endurance. I wouldn't push em, you're gonna end up blowing them and then you'll have to get new 6x9's also. -------------------- 私の正義
Iconoclast
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posted 02-12-2006 05:50 PM
^^^ true 6x9's can sound ok, but they will bottom out easy. one song will be fine, and another will have to be turned way down to keep from blowing them. The lower bass is hell on them. Be careful also, they usually smoke pretty quick, and they can't stand it for long-- no endurance. I wouldn't push em, you're gonna end up blowing them and then you'll have to get new 6x9's also. -------------------- 私の正義
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Hmm I think I could get some to do in the 170's....in port wars. Other then would have no use for them. Never was a huge fan of them. No real reason I guess other then have not found a pair I liked the sound of. -------------------- Rob, My Ride's http://mysite.verizon.net/proaudio150/ **UPDATED 8/5** Former UsacI 301-600 Pro World Record Holder and PortWars World Record Holder (old rules). -USAC 2001 World Champion and 2001 World Finalist "Its sometimes the journey thats fun...not the destination."
Proaudio150
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posted 02-13-2006 02:04 AM
Hmm I think I could get some to do in the 170's....in port wars. Other then would have no use for them. Never was a huge fan of them. No real reason I guess other then have not found a pair I liked the sound of. -------------------- Rob, My Ride's http://mysite.verizon.net/proaudio150/ **UPDATED 8/5** Former UsacI 301-600 Pro World Record Holder and PortWars World Record Holder (old rules). -USAC 2001 World Champion and 2001 World Finalist "Its sometimes the journey thats fun...not the destination."
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I remember Chili got a handful of "by Nines" to get up to 169dB on the dash.... Luin has the video somewhere... -------------------- Gabriel "The SPL Jester" Ramirez Team Gates Kicker Car Stereo Eastern Audio SPL2K Powermaster Motorsports
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posted 02-13-2006 07:35 AM
I remember Chili got a handful of "by Nines" to get up to 169dB on the dash.... Luin has the video somewhere... -------------------- Gabriel "The SPL Jester" Ramirez Team Gates Kicker Car Stereo Eastern Audio SPL2K Powermaster Motorsports
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Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? -------------------- Team Bass Coat MTX MAXXSONICS Pioneer Bruce Dressel In loving memory of my sister Kerry Ann Johnson 1970 - 2008 The only true constant in the universe is change
big noiz
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posted 02-13-2006 08:41 AM
Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? -------------------- Team Bass Coat MTX MAXXSONICS Pioneer Bruce Dressel In loving memory of my sister Kerry Ann Johnson 1970 - 2008 The only true constant in the universe is change
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i remember seeing that vid, was pretty crazy and a few more than a handful even if you are andre the giant.
alleycat9
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posted 02-13-2006 09:29 AM
i remember seeing that vid, was pretty crazy and a few more than a handful even if you are andre the giant.
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quote: Originally posted by big noiz: Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? he actually did several burps... and they were the cheap cheap 6x9s .... -------------------- Gabriel "The SPL Jester" Ramirez Team Gates Kicker Car Stereo Eastern Audio SPL2K Powermaster Motorsports
SPL Jester
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posted 02-13-2006 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by big noiz: Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? he actually did several burps... and they were the cheap cheap 6x9s .... -------------------- Gabriel "The SPL Jester" Ramirez Team Gates Kicker Car Stereo Eastern Audio SPL2K Powermaster Motorsports
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even on the new meter it still would of been over a 60, not bad for some knockoffs if you ask me. -------------------- Scott Christensen
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posted 02-13-2006 10:14 AM
even on the new meter it still would of been over a 60, not bad for some knockoffs if you ask me. -------------------- Scott Christensen
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yeah, but he had like 20 or 30 in there... I have the vid somewhere, if somebody wants to see it, I can find it -------------------- 私の正義
Iconoclast
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posted 02-13-2006 12:05 PM
yeah, but he had like 20 or 30 in there... I have the vid somewhere, if somebody wants to see it, I can find it -------------------- 私の正義
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Yeah I'm not trying to get deep bass because 6x9s can't anyway, instead I'm looking for what it can do which is 40Hz and up. It doesn't sound half bad right now but I can tell the speakers need more power. -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
Bassphobia
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posted 02-13-2006 09:02 PM
Yeah I'm not trying to get deep bass because 6x9s can't anyway, instead I'm looking for what it can do which is 40Hz and up. It doesn't sound half bad right now but I can tell the speakers need more power. -------------------- 98 Cadillac Deville Premier TS-C504s Cadence SeAqua amps 12" Kicker L5Past Setup
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quote: Originally posted by Iconoclast: yeah, but he had like 20 or 30 in there... I have the vid somewhere, if somebody wants to see it, I can find it Ill buy 60 and you still wont break 55 -------------------- Scott Christensen
---Navi---
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posted 02-13-2006 09:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Iconoclast: yeah, but he had like 20 or 30 in there... I have the vid somewhere, if somebody wants to see it, I can find it Ill buy 60 and you still wont break 55 -------------------- Scott Christensen
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169 with 6x9's!!!!! -------------------- T.J. Stewart Team Trendsetters Team MAXXSONICS Team RE OHIO GENERATORS Team Gates Club 664 VIP 2004 Usac 901-1800 WORLD CHAMPION 2004 Usac 901-1800 W.R Holder
spl-TJ
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posted 02-13-2006 09:06 PM
169 with 6x9's!!!!! -------------------- T.J. Stewart Team Trendsetters Team MAXXSONICS Team RE OHIO GENERATORS Team Gates Club 664 VIP 2004 Usac 901-1800 WORLD CHAMPION 2004 Usac 901-1800 W.R Holder
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quote: Originally posted by spl-TJ: 169 with 6x9's!!!!! where you been????trying to get loud??? j/k --------------------
1LOUDSUV
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posted 02-13-2006 09:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by spl-TJ: 169 with 6x9's!!!!! where you been????trying to get loud??? j/k --------------------
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nahh not me.. im notloud nor will i ever be loud -------------------- T.J. Stewart Team Trendsetters Team MAXXSONICS Team RE OHIO GENERATORS Team Gates Club 664 VIP 2004 Usac 901-1800 WORLD CHAMPION 2004 Usac 901-1800 W.R Holder
spl-TJ
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posted 02-13-2006 09:12 PM
nahh not me.. im notloud nor will i ever be loud -------------------- T.J. Stewart Team Trendsetters Team MAXXSONICS Team RE OHIO GENERATORS Team Gates Club 664 VIP 2004 Usac 901-1800 WORLD CHAMPION 2004 Usac 901-1800 W.R Holder
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quote: Originally posted by big noiz: Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? it was 14 Ultimate 6x9's and 14 Zapco 9.0's on about 28 Westco 8 volt batteries. Old mics first burp was over a 150. The ONLY reason they blew before they got to the 170dB mark is because someone "rolled" it up to quickly! I believe Luin also did over a 150 with 24 6x9's. -------------------- See you in the lanes, dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC
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posted 02-13-2006 10:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by big noiz: Impressive, but on the old mic and didn't most of them blow immediatly anyways? it was 14 Ultimate 6x9's and 14 Zapco 9.0's on about 28 Westco 8 volt batteries. Old mics first burp was over a 150. The ONLY reason they blew before they got to the 170dB mark is because someone "rolled" it up to quickly! I believe Luin also did over a 150 with 24 6x9's. -------------------- See you in the lanes, dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC
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quote: Originally posted by Iconoclast: ^^^ true 6x9's can sound ok, but they will bottom out easy. one song will be fine, and another will have to be turned way down to keep from blowing them. The lower bass is hell on them. Be careful also, they usually smoke pretty quick, and they can't stand it for long-- no endurance. I wouldn't push em, you're gonna end up blowing them and then you'll have to get new 6x9's also. While I dont know about the brand he is talking about..I do know that unless you are playing the speaker out of it specs you best not have the problem you are talking about. -------------------- Rob, My Ride's http://mysite.verizon.net/proaudio150/ **UPDATED 8/5** Former UsacI 301-600 Pro World Record Holder and PortWars World Record Holder (old rules). -USAC 2001 World Champion and 2001 World Finalist "Its sometimes the journey thats fun...not the destination."
Proaudio150
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posted 02-15-2006 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Iconoclast: ^^^ true 6x9's can sound ok, but they will bottom out easy. one song will be fine, and another will have to be turned way down to keep from blowing them. The lower bass is hell on them. Be careful also, they usually smoke pretty quick, and they can't stand it for long-- no endurance. I wouldn't push em, you're gonna end up blowing them and then you'll have to get new 6x9's also. While I dont know about the brand he is talking about..I do know that unless you are playing the speaker out of it specs you best not have the problem you are talking about. -------------------- Rob, My Ride's http://mysite.verizon.net/proaudio150/ **UPDATED 8/5** Former UsacI 301-600 Pro World Record Holder and PortWars World Record Holder (old rules). -USAC 2001 World Champion and 2001 World Finalist "Its sometimes the journey thats fun...not the destination."
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thats pretty cool -------------------- Team Devastation MMA Machado Brazilian Jiujitsu Once I lock it on theres no escape I dont train to make you tap, I train to tear your arm, leg, or head off. Its your job to tap before I can do that A boxer is a Lion the best predator on land, Im a shark throw them in the ocean where they cant swim and they become just another meal Pain is only weakness leaving the body, its kill or be killed and only the strong survive
Pitbull
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posted 02-15-2006 11:14 PM
thats pretty cool -------------------- Team Devastation MMA Machado Brazilian Jiujitsu Once I lock it on theres no escape I dont train to make you tap, I train to tear your arm, leg, or head off. Its your job to tap before I can do that A boxer is a Lion the best predator on land, Im a shark throw them in the ocean where they cant swim and they become just another meal Pain is only weakness leaving the body, its kill or be killed and only the strong survive
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