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quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
agreed. but at the same time i think taking judges and bringing them to the opposite continent would be a good idea too.
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At most they have probably seen a max of five pandas ever before this trip, and two of them were in street max. Unless it was pointed out by someone how would you expect them to know the intricacies of the stock interior of a panda? It is easy to judge them from afar but could you tell if similar things were done to a crx?
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Panda or not, things like door handles, seat belts, carpet, and interior panels missing should have been seen. That one pic with a plate on the side there covering the holes up stands out. Also the amps on/in the seats?!? I'm really curious about that street C setup. Were they allowed to compete with the back seats down? That would put the equipment out of the cargo area.
quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
agreed. but at the same time i think taking judges and bringing them to the opposite continent would be a good idea too.
Yes, next year we must buy Yiannis a ticket
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quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
agreed. but at the same time i think taking judges and bringing them to the opposite continent would be a good idea too.
Yes, next year we must buy Yiannis a ticket
Then we´ll see guys working at the finals over there...
quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
no pandas in brazil?? isnt there fiat factory? ON TOPIC - if judges dont know nothing about car...how can they be judges?? than can I be the judge...just read a few more times db drag rulebook and thats it.... but if they dint know nothing about pandas....what car dont have seat belts?? or how the people are getting out of the car without door handle? that things must every car have...no matter what kind or year of manufacturing is....these are some serious mestakes....
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Hei Peter whats the problem with guys of the Brazil ?I garant this cars not have gain with this and the judges Daniel and Psychoacoustics know the rules of te DB drag talk about this with Wayne about credibility of the judges. this cars are disponible in Uruguay for sale, here in Brazil we havent for sale.we need drive 3000km to buy a panda or bella a long time ago here in Brasil no need driver with securty belt and now in Uruguay no need driver with security belt the cars dont need use belt securty in the cars in Uruguay the cars is very old and not have parts of te cars panda or bella for sale .
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It hink it would be better for all who complain, to get infos about all the versions what are sold around the world. Maybe (I dont know it) there are models without that holes or seatbelts like Hal said? Maybe complaints are right, maybe not, but please check all infos before!
I dont want to take party here, but maybe there were no modifications to that cars in the pictures. If there were modifications, no doubt, its not allowed.
We know there are US versions of CRX with 2 seats and the Euro Version has 4 seats and its not allowed to take them out.
So if the "Uruguay" version of a Panda comes without seat belts, well, go to Uruguay and get one Maybe its louder, maybe not without belts or some holes. Youll find out when you have one
Please be so kind and tell us then.
I am with the people and their arguments here when these are modifications, but what if not?
Dont blame judges for now knowing cars when they go to a foreign country. Sure, there is a "little" mistake in the system and we really should consider sending out judges across the world to different locations. What has been done, but not 100% accurate. We should learn this for the future.
For now its, of course, very bad for the people in countries where judges know the Pandas. (And "hate" them for understandable reasons).
But I think, if you use one, and take and use the advantages of a Panda, live with the hassles what come with them
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quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
no pandas in brazil?? isnt there fiat factory? ON TOPIC - if judges dont know nothing about car...how can they be judges?? than can I be the judge...just read a few more times db drag rulebook and thats it.... but if they dint know nothing about pandas....what car dont have seat belts?? or how the people are getting out of the car without door handle? that things must every car have...no matter what kind or year of manufacturing is....these are some serious mestakes....
most cars in USA before 1968 had no seatbelts. It wasn't a safety law before that
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quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
no pandas in brazil?? isnt there fiat factory?
The Panda wasn't produced there, the ones that compete over there were brought from Uruguay.
quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: Peter, the judges over there don't have experience with pandas, so maybe calling the judging a joke may be too hard.
I tried to give some direction for the psychos but those cars are a whole new thing outside Europe... They are not sold in Brazil as well.
no pandas in brazil?? isnt there fiat factory? ON TOPIC - if judges dont know nothing about car...how can they be judges?? than can I be the judge...just read a few more times db drag rulebook and thats it.... but if they dint know nothing about pandas....what car dont have seat belts?? or how the people are getting out of the car without door handle? that things must every car have...no matter what kind or year of manufacturing is....these are some serious mestakes....
most cars in USA before 1968 had no seatbelts. It wasn't a safety law before that
The Panda is from 1990+ and not from 1960+
I have a Question when i look @ the 4 Stetsom amps in the SC car. I always thought the 14k2d was not linkable, or is she???
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