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Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
Rip Rock
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posted 08-12-2009 04:10 PM
Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
Posts: 976 | From: Didsbury, Alberta, Canada | Registered: Sep 1999
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leave it there it looks cool if they cant take a joke o well. -------------------- TEAM XTREME LOUD AUDIO THE LOUD CROWD Team Dc Sound Labs.
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posted 08-12-2009 04:57 PM
leave it there it looks cool if they cant take a joke o well. -------------------- TEAM XTREME LOUD AUDIO THE LOUD CROWD Team Dc Sound Labs.
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quote: Originally posted by Old/School: leave it there it looks cool if they cant take a joke o well. X 10 !!!! I know you guys are Canadians , so i know out of what direction it commes KIDDING Offcours , and yes M&M , we do understand what you are saying all in Fun .!! Why we are here -------------------- Christof a.k.a. superSTANY. 8 x SPL DYNAMICS D-5 amps 2 x ATOMIC APXx 18" subs Extreme 2www.youtube.com/Superstany * Life Begins After 1 Jupiler * 8)
stany
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posted 08-12-2009 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Old/School: leave it there it looks cool if they cant take a joke o well. X 10 !!!! I know you guys are Canadians , so i know out of what direction it commes KIDDING Offcours , and yes M&M , we do understand what you are saying all in Fun .!! Why we are here -------------------- Christof a.k.a. superSTANY. 8 x SPL DYNAMICS D-5 amps 2 x ATOMIC APXx 18" subs Extreme 2www.youtube.com/Superstany * Life Begins After 1 Jupiler * 8)
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wow. the sticker didnt even last a week before someone complained. -------------------- Team 2x4 + Soundigital = loud
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posted 08-12-2009 06:03 PM
wow. the sticker didnt even last a week before someone complained. -------------------- Team 2x4 + Soundigital = loud
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quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
HAL
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posted 08-12-2009 08:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
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ok here is the new truck: F450 H.D aka Big Hog Daddy -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
Rip Rock
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posted 08-12-2009 10:20 PM
ok here is the new truck: F450 H.D aka Big Hog Daddy -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
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fack thats a big truck
SpenDiggity
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posted 08-12-2009 10:24 PM
fack thats a big truck
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Wow guys, congrats, I want to drive this baby..... Would you change the wheels with mine??? hehehe --------------------World's strongest amplifiers Contact at murilo@soundigital.com.br (204) 416 3713
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posted 08-12-2009 11:32 PM
Wow guys, congrats, I want to drive this baby..... Would you change the wheels with mine??? hehehe --------------------World's strongest amplifiers Contact at murilo@soundigital.com.br (204) 416 3713
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Looks like a good one @M&M.....maybe you can send me one via post.... About your sticker.... .....I like it! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
SGK-23
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posted 08-13-2009 06:26 AM
Looks like a good one @M&M.....maybe you can send me one via post.... About your sticker.... .....I like it! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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I can see hail damage! ;P Ya i dont see why Craig is upset exactly? This decal is not directed towards any extreme car, it is simply funny as hell. Who originally came up with the "life begins after XXXX" idea in the first place? I think everyone should remove their life begins decals because it offends me and my wimpy 153 dB in extreme class.
The SPL Life
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posted 08-13-2009 06:40 AM
I can see hail damage! ;P Ya i dont see why Craig is upset exactly? This decal is not directed towards any extreme car, it is simply funny as hell. Who originally came up with the "life begins after XXXX" idea in the first place? I think everyone should remove their life begins decals because it offends me and my wimpy 153 dB in extreme class.
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I think Team Loud came up with the "Life begins after 175" then everybody now wants to improve on it.I think that these guys that complain should just Chill out coz they may be loud but I guess they cannot take other cars getting louder.
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posted 08-13-2009 09:11 AM
I think Team Loud came up with the "Life begins after 175" then everybody now wants to improve on it.I think that these guys that complain should just Chill out coz they may be loud but I guess they cannot take other cars getting louder.
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For me there is only one "life begins after" and that the original one from Finland! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
SGK-23
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posted 08-13-2009 12:24 PM
For me there is only one "life begins after" and that the original one from Finland! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's -------------------- -Life begins after 175 db- 4.1 dB's over the goal
dbWarrior
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posted 08-14-2009 04:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's -------------------- -Life begins after 175 db- 4.1 dB's over the goal
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LOL -------------------- "El SPL es muy Duro" -Life begins after 175 db- (4,9 dB's over the goal) 180s is only 0,1dB more than 179,9s
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posted 08-14-2009 05:49 AM
LOL -------------------- "El SPL es muy Duro" -Life begins after 175 db- (4,9 dB's over the goal) 180s is only 0,1dB more than 179,9s
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quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: LOL 183s is only 1dB more than 182s -------------------- "El SPL es muy Duro" -Life begins after 175 db- (4,9 dB's over the goal) 180s is only 0,1dB more than 179,9s
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posted 08-14-2009 05:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: LOL 183s is only 1dB more than 182s -------------------- "El SPL es muy Duro" -Life begins after 175 db- (4,9 dB's over the goal) 180s is only 0,1dB more than 179,9s
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quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: LOL 183s is only 1dB more than 182s And only 4,9 dB away from 178.1..... What about some sweet pics @M&M? --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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posted 08-14-2009 06:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: quote: Originally posted by www.ifycar.com: LOL 183s is only 1dB more than 182s And only 4,9 dB away from 178.1..... What about some sweet pics @M&M? --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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Mark and Mike, the truck looks great and the tow vehicle is badd A$$. Great job and I love to hear that you are having fun. Fun is the part that some people are missing and only complain about it.
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posted 08-14-2009 11:40 AM
Mark and Mike, the truck looks great and the tow vehicle is badd A$$. Great job and I love to hear that you are having fun. Fun is the part that some people are missing and only complain about it.
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quote: Originally posted by dbWarrior: quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's Hello Mister, how are you? Do you know what is the model of the pressure sensor used on the TL? --------------------World's strongest amplifiers Contact at murilo@soundigital.com.br (204) 416 3713
murilo@soundigital.com.br
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posted 08-14-2009 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by dbWarrior: quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's Hello Mister, how are you? Do you know what is the model of the pressure sensor used on the TL? --------------------World's strongest amplifiers Contact at murilo@soundigital.com.br (204) 416 3713
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Of course they have fun........but they should post more pics! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
SGK-23
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posted 08-14-2009 03:53 PM
Of course they have fun........but they should post more pics! --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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quote: Originally posted by dbWarrior: quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's Hei Mikko the problem not make 183dbz but 183 in sensor of the termlab now this problem for me in my point of the I see . I make 180dbz in window and the floor 181.3dbz and more power in 182dbz in window and the floor 182.1dbz this is the problem for me. in sensor of the audio control I make more 182.8 in window and the gain in floor is same of the termlab in the line 180 0.8dbz @1.1dbz of the gain in floor 183.7. litle diferenc. 1- but remember termlab for 181.5 dbs is very have precision and is made 183dbs and have the best price. 2- audio control is good for high spl I dont belive 190dbz hehe and is very expensive in price. guys this only my opinion. [ 08-14-2009, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: HAL ] -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
HAL
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posted 08-14-2009 03:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by dbWarrior: quote: Originally posted by HAL: quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: Sorry if the sticker offended anyone who has a "life begins at XXX.XX" it was ment to say, it doesnt matter what score you have, just have fun.. again sorry for the miss understanding, i'll take off the decal. hei M&M this is very cool I will go same for my volvo hehehe but the meter dead in 183dbz.hehehe Sensor is not dieing even in 200db's But score is not rising at all after 183db's If someone really needs sensor what goes over that Wayne all ready might have that kind of sensor waiting in stock. At least we had discussed development ideas few years ago but still it seems that we are quite far away from 183db's Hei Mikko the problem not make 183dbz but 183 in sensor of the termlab now this problem for me in my point of the I see . I make 180dbz in window and the floor 181.3dbz and more power in 182dbz in window and the floor 182.1dbz this is the problem for me. in sensor of the audio control I make more 182.8 in window and the gain in floor is same of the termlab in the line 180 0.8dbz @1.1dbz of the gain in floor 183.7. litle diferenc. 1- but remember termlab for 181.5 dbs is very have precision and is made 183dbs and have the best price. 2- audio control is good for high spl I dont belive 190dbz hehe and is very expensive in price. guys this only my opinion. [ 08-14-2009, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: HAL ] -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
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Wayne talk me and it have developing the new sensor for 200dbz this very nice . -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
HAL
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posted 08-14-2009 04:04 PM
Wayne talk me and it have developing the new sensor for 200dbz this very nice . -------------------- 2007 top score in 3x ext5+ 178.3 2008 WR ext3+ top score 179.4 2009 WR ext5+ 180.4 2009 WR ext5+181.3 2009 WR ext5+ 181.6 2009 top score 181.6 2009 next goal for me world champion.hehehe now is make Team Shocker Brazil www.shocker.com.br msn shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com email shockeraltofalantes@hotmail.com
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Isn`t that true John, fun is what makes dbdrag, if you dont have fun why are you in it, ya know. @sgk, you guys know what were doing, no need to show pics -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
Rip Rock
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posted 08-15-2009 12:45 AM
Isn`t that true John, fun is what makes dbdrag, if you dont have fun why are you in it, ya know. @sgk, you guys know what were doing, no need to show pics -------------------- 180+ db`s Mike and Mark E-mail rip_rock@shaw.ca
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quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: ok here is the new truck: F450 H.D aka Big Hog Daddy --------------------
TeamSubGoPoof
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posted 08-15-2009 02:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: ok here is the new truck: F450 H.D aka Big Hog Daddy --------------------
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quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: @sgk, you guys know what were doing, no need to show pics I dont know -------------------- Christof a.k.a. superSTANY. 8 x SPL DYNAMICS D-5 amps 2 x ATOMIC APXx 18" subs Extreme 2www.youtube.com/Superstany * Life Begins After 1 Jupiler * 8)
stany
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posted 08-15-2009 02:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rip Rock: @sgk, you guys know what were doing, no need to show pics I dont know -------------------- Christof a.k.a. superSTANY. 8 x SPL DYNAMICS D-5 amps 2 x ATOMIC APXx 18" subs Extreme 2www.youtube.com/Superstany * Life Begins After 1 Jupiler * 8)
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Sure @M&M.....IŽll post some pics from the last days today..... --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
SGK-23
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posted 08-16-2009 07:13 AM
Sure @M&M.....IŽll post some pics from the last days today..... --------------------greetings Holger Head of Team SGKwww.first-class-audio-service.de Service for Audio System, Atomic, ” Dimension and US Amps in Germany Service for Soundigital in Europe Service for DD Belgium and DD Netherlands German Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 178,6 dB European Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Vize World Champion 09 Extreme 2 with 179 dB Germanys loudest car ever build -Life begins after 175 db- 4 dB's over the goal :-)
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