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has anyone helped Ray choy in street A, becuase hes now doing a 150 certified with 2 10"s and 1 amp, i was wondering if a certified judge should be able to go to competitions after seeing everybodys box and system design inside and outside?!
whats the ruling on this whole thing?
because i like to keep my boxes a secret and kinda hush hush!
i dont want to upset Ray Choy, Detlef, BOX or any other judge but i just want to get all the info before i let a certified judge inspect my box and then the next thing i know they are using my own box against me in the lanes!!!!
any help would be great guys Posts: 10 | From: Pacific Ocean | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by BobbyBroomstick: has anyone helped Ray choy in street A, becuase hes now doing a 150 certified with 2 10"s and 1 amp, i was wondering if a certified judge should be able to go to competitions after seeing everybodys box and system design inside and outside?!
whats the ruling on this whole thing?
because i like to keep my boxes a secret and kinda hush hush!
i dont want to upset Ray Choy, Detlef, BOX or any other judge but i just want to get all the info before i let a certified judge inspect my box and then the next thing i know they are using my own box against me in the lanes!!!!
any help would be great guys
to be honest who cares who sees what, we are all here to have fun and compete and get loud, europeans are very open about it and guess what we are the loudest street cars in the world, your own extreme guys get hellishly loud thanks to a design of the europeans, to be open is to furthur yourself and those around you which is good for the sport!!
so what if ray choi has a certified score in st. a, if its only a fifty then he ain't that loud!! the uk record holder is doing a 151.2 in A and 152.5 in B (same car just diffferent subs!) and if you asked he would take his subs out and let you view the inside iof his sub box, take measurements/photos etc! he runs a plain square box, 40 wide, 16 high, 16 deep external with a slot port between the two subs, 3" wide 45 degree angles in the bottom outside corners, there ya go, build away - does this mean you will do his scores, erm no, if you think that boxes are the be all and end all then you are very much mistaken, if you won't help others then you ain't doing the sport any favours are ya!
we compete for fun and have a good time, enjoy db drag racing!
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quote:Originally posted by BobbyBroomstick: has anyone helped Ray choy in street A, becuase hes now doing a 150 certified with 2 10"s and 1 amp, i was wondering if a certified judge should be able to go to competitions after seeing everybodys box and system design inside and outside?!
whats the ruling on this whole thing?
because i like to keep my boxes a secret and kinda hush hush!
i dont want to upset Ray Choy, Detlef, BOX or any other judge but i just want to get all the info before i let a certified judge inspect my box and then the next thing i know they are using my own box against me in the lanes!!!!
any help would be great guys
to be honest who cares who sees what, we are all here to have fun and compete and get loud, europeans are very open about it and guess what we are the loudest street cars in the world, your own extreme guys get hellishly loud thanks to a design of the europeans, to be open is to furthur yourself and those around you which is good for the sport!!
so what if ray choi has a certified score in st. a, if its only a fifty then he ain't that loud!! the uk record holder is doing a 151.2 in A and 152.5 in B (same car just diffferent subs!) and if you asked he would take his subs out and let you view the inside iof his sub box, take measurements/photos etc! he runs a plain square box, 40 wide, 16 high, 16 deep external with a slot port between the two subs, 3" wide 45 degree angles in the bottom outside corners, there ya go, build away - does this mean you will do his scores, erm no, if you think that boxes are the be all and end all then you are very much mistaken, if you won't help others then you ain't doing the sport any favours are ya!
we compete for fun and have a good time, enjoy db drag racing!
sorry but i dont feel that in street class i want too many people to see what i have done all by myself to get loud let him or her figure it out
Posts: 10 | From: Pacific Ocean | Registered: Jul 2005
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Everybody can get Infos from other persons who are willing to help. Nobody is requested to tell even a certified judge how many liters a box have or such details.
If time allows, and the competition do not suffer, why should a judge not bring a car to the lanes.
And, is that Ray Choy really the "Ray Choy" we know? I didnt find his name in the stats. Maybe I am blind or to dumb to find
Ray was a competitior, and upgradet to a judge. He has still a part of a competitior inside, and I think, that is not bad ! Because then he has a better feeling for a competitor than a judge who doesnt compete ! Think about that !
Generally spoken : Sure, I see a problem also, if a big event, or a world record comes up, a judge can judge his car, make it legal, and get the record, or title. He knows rules very good and can argue. That can cause a conflict. But I am sure that it will not happen. So there is the unwritten rule that a certified judge should not compete. That is why I am no certified judge, for example. I decided that I enjoy the competition more than the judging process. But still I know the rules very good (make mistakes like everybody else), and sometimes I help out judging. Why not. If you are objective, even if against yourself, there is no trouble. Who else helped out as a judge and is normally a competitor?
But maybe it should be written in the rules. What is if a judge is a member of a team? Or has an own shop what builds a car? Or he is a relative to a competitor, or a good friend? These all are questions what can be answered with the "good mind inside of a person" who never benefit from his position by abusing it.
I hope I did not make mistakes in formulations here to spread more confusion...
Üüüühh!!! Michael
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I thought multi-point judges weren't allowed to compete?
(not trying to start trouble... just something I heard a while ago)
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quote:Originally posted by JordyO: I thought multi-point judges weren't allowed to compete?
(not trying to start trouble... just something I heard a while ago)
I think its multi point judges, or their families, cannot compete at their own certified events.
Or something similar.
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quote:Originally posted by Rip Rock: Actually Ray Choy doesn`t compete, Team F/X does.
Well that answers that then
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where is the sport if everybody has the same box????? build your own and see that it's louder!
-------------------- proud member of stef's crazy team 2005 wr holder street b 156.9db and european champion Posts: 17 | From: Tielt-Winge | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Shedluv: I would personally have to say that competing at your own show and winning would not sit well with a lot of other competitors.
I have not heard nobody complaining about Team F/X compeeting at an F/X Audio show. It`s a lot different up here (in the west) than down there. It`s really about supporting dbdrag imo......
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A judge is not a competitor and a competitor is not a judge,that's the way it should be.(just my opinion) Ofcorse both of them must now the rules
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If judges compete ... can we "competitors" judge then there cars
((( Ray ... i got another complain ... remember the can ... some guys where complaining that 1 liter was missing at arrival .... you know something ... )))
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I understand that people would complain about a certified judge but what about a single point judge at their own event?
I compete at all of my events. I will let anyone that wants to "judge" my car look at it and make sure that it is legal. I will also put myself into a class that won't knock someone else out of competition, within what class my car is legal.
-------------------- Just some thoughts from a nobody. Posts: 3686 | From: Lakewood,Ohio | Registered: Aug 2003
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Last year Ray was judging at Eurofinals, and he took a look at our car, and we had some talking about Street-A cars and systems, I also gave him a lot of details about our way of build the car... Maybe it helped him! Why have you to keep everything as a secret when it's just testing and working hard the real secret? We had some good ideas and got first place in Street-A and the 2004 World Record, now somebody had better ideas, and the scores are rising up. That's the game...
-------------------- Roberto Zordan Team BASS Captain 2003 Street-A & B Italian champions 2004 Italian record holders St.A - St.B - St.C - Ext.1 2004 Street-A World Record Holders 153.7 dB 2004 Street-A European Champions Posts: 32 | From: Padova, Italy | Registered: Sep 2001
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