quote:Originally posted by BaDBoY No WaLL: But think of this, World Finals are where the best come together to compete. Where is the fairness to be left out.
There is an easy solution that has been discussed. Take twenty dead on Termlabs and set them up all over the world. Take 3X judges and set them up in different areas. Wayne has the technology to conduct a TRUE world finals. Im just not sure how many folks would want to do that.
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That sounds like a step in the right direction. I believe the technology is there also. It would be awesome to make it happen and be a part of it too. I bet we can look forward to something like this soon.
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quote:Originally posted by BaDBoY No WaLL: This is my first post and I thought I would try to shed some light on the European attitude and pride. I am an American living here in Germany. I have been here for 7 years and I enjoy competing at DB drag. These guys here have been realy friendly and helpful to us. I can understand how they feel cause it effects me too. Products are priority to U.S. what is left over comes here. Limited quantities which means, not much room for error on testing and such, blow a amp wait 6 months for repair, blow a woofer wait 6 months for repair. My point is that here everything is harder all the way down to the judging just because they don't want anyone to say Europe get over easy. Everyone works hard. Maybe there is a bit more pride here due to limited supplies. The culture here is different. They don't mean to offend anyone. Some may, but the most don't. Recognition is all they want. From the numorous posts I've read, I see that this topic has been beaten to death. But think of this, World Finals are where the best come together to compete. Where is the fairness to be left out. You wouldn't like either. This causes resentment and these "Europe vs. USA" posts. I know it is the way it is. I also wanted to be there and battle for the world title but it didn't happen and I'll get over it. I think instead of arguing over this just to have something to do we should try to resolve the issue at hand. Let's figure out how we all can be a part.
Hi Chris, good to have you here on TP ...well said !
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it doesn't look like we will be at Sinsheim it's our first & biggest show of the year, which will most probably also be a 3x. this year they were a week apart which suited us perfectly
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Oooooh right.....I remember talking to ECC about that. Well then good luck to you guys at your big show. See you latest at Euro Finals where ever that will be.
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Europe vrs states... I really believe its not good to compare these two because think about this.. street A the diffrence is 1db street B --1.5 db max 1-2 its about 1.5 db NW1-2---0.5db SS1-2---0.4 SS3-4---0.5 In most of these catagories pantas are used or lets say small cars in europe and most of us play over 70 hz In the states the use big cars,vans and they play much lower freq. and the get these scores So imagine if they would use small cars what would the diffrence in the scores be???? I guess the same.. So stop comparing the 2 nations becasuse we are not comparing 2 identical things.
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quote:Originally posted by kiss my bass: Europe vrs states... I really believe its not good to compare these two because think about this.. street A the diffrence is 1db street B --1.5 db max 1-2 its about 1.5 db NW1-2---0.5db SS1-2---0.4 SS3-4---0.5 In most of these catagories pantas are used or lets say small cars in europe and most of us play over 70 hz In the states the use big cars,vans and they play much lower freq. and the get these scores So imagine if they would use small cars what would the diffrence in the scores be???? I guess the same.. So stop comparing the 2 nations becasuse we are not comparing 2 identical things.
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X3. I always stay out of these debates as they are far from comparing apples to apples. Congrats to all LOUD competitors no matter where they may reside.
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quote:Originally posted by steffert: We have now an american crx for next season . I'm bored with the marbella's and the panda's.
Are you sure, or did you just pull the backseat out of a euro one?
NO it is a realy a american CRX
Yes,it's a genuin american rex,imported thrue the nederlands
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quote:Originally posted by BaDBoY No WaLL: But think of this, World Finals are where the best come together to compete. Where is the fairness to be left out.
There is an easy solution that has been discussed. Take twenty dead on Termlabs and set them up all over the world. Take 3X judges and set them up in different areas. Wayne has the technology to conduct a TRUE world finals. Im just not sure how many folks would want to do that.
The technology is there; however we currently can't keep dbTV running consistantly so how do you propose a real world finals?
Craig
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quote:Originally posted by Killi: The technology is there; however we currently can't keep dbTV running consistantly so how do you propose a real world finals?
Craig
Honor system and a long distance phone call?
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quote:Originally posted by BigDave: Some of you guys (europeans) are pathetic. Im not gonna get into why you guys have an advantage or anything, but Im really sick and tired of post such as this one. Why is it that Team Loud can come over here, and meet everyone and be nice and even help Americans, but you people still insist on being A$$holes. Not one time did I hear the guys from Team Loud say that they were better than us, or Europe is so much louder than us. Some of you need to grow up, and support the sport as a whole. That means support every country that supports dBdrag. Maybe if you werent so ignorant, we wouldnt dislike you so much.
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So your not moaning about Team Loud being too loud and must be bending the rules now then? They helped 2 or 3 cars and are good guys now.
Theyve been helping euro guys for years, theyve got respect for other competitors and we respect them.
Your not moaning about our cars?
What advantage have we got? Please tell me and Ill tell you twice as many advantages you guys over the pond have.
Its tit for tat, you always see the good things that others have and never the good things that you have.
Whos being ignorant now??
But at least you admit you dislike us
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i have no problems with anyone competing i think that panda has an advantage over other cars but im just workn to get louder. i wish i had a panda to work with but i dont so i dont care. i just dont think we can compair a crx to a panda or an suv. good nubers every one. please just lets stop complaining whos louder cause i have this or that. just my thoughts good luck next year everyone
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quote:Originally posted by BigDave: Some of you guys (europeans) are pathetic. Im not gonna get into why you guys have an advantage or anything, but Im really sick and tired of post such as this one. Why is it that Team Loud can come over here, and meet everyone and be nice and even help Americans, but you people still insist on being A$$holes. Not one time did I hear the guys from Team Loud say that they were better than us, or Europe is so much louder than us. Some of you need to grow up, and support the sport as a whole. That means support every country that supports dBdrag. Maybe if you werent so ignorant, we wouldnt dislike you so much.
C'ock
So your not moaning about Team Loud being too loud and must be bending the rules now then? They helped 2 or 3 cars and are good guys now.
Theyve been helping euro guys for years, theyve got respect for other competitors and we respect them.
Your not moaning about our cars?
What advantage have we got? Please tell me and Ill tell you twice as many advantages you guys over the pond have.
Its tit for tat, you always see the good things that others have and never the good things that you have.
Whos being ignorant now??
But at least you admit you dislike us
Let me rephrase my comment. If YOU werent so ignorant, maybe I wouldnt dislike YOU!!! Stop being an A$$hole. I have never made any negative comments about any european competitors or their cars. Just because one american thinks one thing doesnt mean that all of them think the same. I have always said that the europeans are loud and commended them for it. And about the advantages comment, I was clearly saying that I was not gonna make an excuse like some others were saying you guys have advantages. You call me ignorant when you cant even see my "plain as day" point I was trying to make, which was quit all the fighting. You might need to quit posting for while and pull your head out of your A$$, before everyone in the world, besides me, sees how stupid and childish you really are.
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I am going to designate this season to catching the Euro's in Street B... we found the limits to the DD's in CRX's look at how tight the scores are.. without more power or better subs we are stuck... luckily Shock is back... and I believe if you put his and my work ethic together we can catch the 155's... We'll close the gap one show at a time...
This is not to be disrespectful... just an observation. We have CRX's almost to their limits of efficiency.
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