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Please sort the rule that only Street competitors who make it to the World Finals have to move on.
In countries outside of the US, we still have competitors who came top 3 at the countries national finals, who want to hang onto the class, and compete again in Street again next year. They complain that because its not in the rules, they dont have to.
THIS IS NOT FAIR ON OUR COUNTRIES POTENTIAL NOVICES.
PLEASE PUT IT IN THE RULES.
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I think that there will be a big discussion about having the street class people move up this year. Not meaning to point fingers, but the top 2 Street 3-4 cars were girlfriends/wives of former competitors. The top Street 1-2 car (which also placed at finals last year under different ownership) and another high ranking Street 3-4 Explorer were both relatives of a 9+ and former Street 3-4 World Record holder. So even though we do have the "move up" rule, it appears that the same people can continue to work on systems in the street class even though they have competed in it before.
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As far as I know this "Moving-Up"-Rule only is valid for the "World-final-competitors", so competitors outside the US are not included.
But as far as I remember, there was a discussion about this rule few weeks ago, don't know if it was going to any changing in the ruling.
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Actually, for us it is more like a problem if and when we have to make our Street competitors move up. This has been something that is been decided on national level little differently in each country. In a big countries with hundreds of competitors it can be a good thing to make them move up - except there is a zillion ways to go round that rule... But for some smaller countries it is doing the opposite it should, we end up having less competitors when forcing all the top/active street competitors to move up. Some of them of course are moving up by their own choice, but for some it means they will just quit because can't or don't want to move up to bigger and more expensive things.
It also varies between countries, some have lot's of street competitors and very few extremes, and some have not so many streets but more extremes.
It is a bit hard to make this rule in away it would work the best for everyone I think.
Personally I think the Street competitors should not be forced to move up. First because it does not change much anything, like we all know, there are friends who they will share their knowledge and all anyway, doing the same or even better numbers next year. Second because the MiniStreet classes can be used very well for the new comers, and naturally the pro's don't have that much interest on MiniStreet classes.
Or one option that I personally could think would work (not perhaps for everyone, like I explained above...) is to have two different official Street classes, for PRO's and for new comers. To have Street officially for the new comers is because many people would also like to compete in an official international class, not just some Mini Street which doesn't count that much. And to separate PRO's to different Street class would allow those people to continue competing (and not quitting totally) in Street who just loves that class and want to continue competing in Street, but this would "nominally" make the competition more fair to the new comers. Although, I could bet the difference in SPL numbers wouldn't be any different in the Street and Street Pro...
Okey, just some of my thoughts there.
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Pros and "non-Pros" won't make a difference as someone who is new to the sport can compete in the non-Pro division even though they may have their box designed by a pro that used to run a similar vehicle. Example, if anyone with a 1998-2002 S10 extended cab came to me with $3500, I could hand them back a system (equipment, box and all) that would do a low 155.
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Yep exactly. Street for Pro's idea was only if it really is a mandatory to move up the pro's from Street. And pretty much like you said, also if keeping the Street as it is and force pro's to move up, it doesn't matter anything anyway because the cars, equipments, boxes, knowledge and all would still be in the field the same way, just with different face perhaps... but in someway that could be little bit better than looking at the same faces winning street year after year ? Posts: 575 | From: Finland | Registered: Feb 2001
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"This has been something that is been decided on national level little differently in each country"
Oh dear, brainwashed by Wayne. If it isnt in the official rules, it dosnt happen.
So we had 3 Street competitors at the UK finals. 1 was new , 1 was the UK record holder in 2001, and 1 has competed since 1995, and has his own Extreme vehicle.....
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I might misunderstand you Geoff... but what does the rulebook say about NATIONAL FINALS ? Nothing ? And still they are happening, so we just have to use our heads a little bit. Oh yeah sorry, you don't have national finals in UK, at least you don't keep the scores from them... Oh sorry, I just had to, I am bad and I have a very twisted sense of humour, sorry
But seriously, hopefully we can find some common way to do this next season. But like I said, this thing works little differently in each country, I mean which is the best way to do it....
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Not a very easy issue to put to rest - the competitors must decide if they want to change - BUT I think we should hit the top 3 competitors with a system of points reduction ie 50% less therefore he will have to work that much harder to get to the finals?????
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