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i believe that the "racing" part is cool but as far as who has the loudest bassrace car, or streetbeater, we could in the future use a wall/no wall catagory. Not complaining.....this is fun, but here we go again. A car or truck with a box below the window line and no mods past the cargo area should not have to go against 10,16, or 24 subs in a wall. Walls are what a 6db advantage compared to someone below the window? Will and Tommy are definitly badasses in bassrace, Oki is doin good, Mike Mclelland here in Sacramento with a walled van with 8 15's in the 50's - but IMO a wall should never be next to a non wall in a comp.......to much advantage. Some of us arent interested in the control part as much as who the hell can bang the hardest (no burps) Anyones thoughts?
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I see what you're saying Meade. I think the structure they have for right now is good...though an addition is needed.
Deathmatch for example. That is basically who brings teh most wang. Bad part about it is it's only 4 cars & costs extra to partake at the end of the show.
Why not have that be a part of bassrace instead of just an exhibition?
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but even deathmatch the loudest guys are using tones for the full five minutes........still not music. (some of us use music though )
I feel ya, the structure is good right now i was talking maybe in the future. I am happy they made changes this year to get everyday boomers to come out so im not bitchin' one bit.
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quote:Originally posted by Meade916: but even deathmatch the loudest guys are using tones for the full five minutes........still not music. (some of us use music though )
are they really? aw weak, if I would have known that I would have tried a tone in reno
McClelland is def. doing good...isn't he doing them '50's in the 33hz range?!
If a pure musical bangoff can be incorporated into bassrace down the road that would be cool. I see that bringing in a few more folks too.
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Meade, you are louder than 24 12"s, and a buttload of 10s in a wall....why would u want classes? but i do see your point of classes for walled and non-walled vehicles
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I don't really see the need for classes they would just get hectic especially since the Extreme guys are involved. I commend you and the volume of your system Steve it is an awesome score. I would like to point out that while you do not have a wall your setup is in no way just an everyday setup. You are running subs with an MSRP of about a G and you are running 1 bd 1500's per coil.
I would not go and give the wall a 6 db advantage in any way I mean look at those street guys that are louder than you or me with just 3 batteries and 4 amps on 2 15's.
Some times I win and some times I lose I just try to have a great time with competition. I personally know Tommy and what he runs I would bet that it would burp a 158 on the termlab with the RE. As for him only being .3 louder than you well he did do it with the New Bass Race software and to my knowledge that was just some CD he tried at the show he did not even test to see the # until it was comp time. I am sure that higher numbers will be seen when the time comes.
Hey I am not the loudest guy out there and even if I go to finals I will be "competing" in the 149.9 class rather than just turning it up as loud as it can go.
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I dont see no reason to have it classed anymore than what it is. Its about what you can do with the Vol. Not what you have behind the B pillar. I dont want this to turn into DB Drag. With all the Crazy rules and classes it bring what you got. Thats what makes it GREAT for anyone!
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but my system is an every day setup in every way.......just alot of power. You can turn your neck and see thru every window, you can still seat 6 people. It was made to play music, not burp. My cargo area is the only thing you see taken up and its not that much different from someone using the whole cargo area for 4 12's and some amps. Im below the window and if there was one of those stretchy covers pulled over the subs (like on an explorer might have) then you might not know i even have a big system.
Do you really think if i moved my box 8-10 feet forward, walled it off (sealed) and ported i wouldnt gain 6db at least on a burp? Bassrace might be tougher to get 6db but i bet it would be a MAJOR gain. Please tell me you dont really think a huge ported box behind your head with 12 or more subs a few feet from the window isnt an advantage (for loudness, not controll). Sounds like fun to have another wall, but I dont want to do that though because right now i still have all the bumps ill ever need and i still have a fully functional Tahoe.
Im not making a big arguement out of tryin to get some more classes, its just an idea because there IS a difference between a wall and a non wall. Like i said im just glad there is something based around music/SPL this year.
Also, Just to let ya know i also have the new software and although ive had a few rough starts at the last two shows dont count me out of the 154+ club....its banging harder than ever right now. Practicing bassrace out front is not as easy on the neighbors as burping though so i dont do it much.
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quote:Originally posted by Meade916: but my system is an every day setup in every way.......just alot of power. You can turn your neck and see thru every window, you can still seat 6 people. It was made to play music, not SNIP
Meade, I see what you are getting at, but I think Bass Race is just about perfect the way it is. Maybe what you are looking for is a Music only dB Drag Class... As dB Drag is already structured around "Peak" scoring. BTW - Strong numbers you have there dude... I bet that thing scares the hell out of people
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I can tell you that mine is only for Street Beating. I dont know if it will break a 150 or not. Dont really care I built it for Beating. Im pretty sure that it will. But dont I care either way. For one Mine, Tommys, and a few others isnt really walls. Our subs start in the front and go all the way to the back. We probaly have more cancelation than any one else out there. Tommy has 24 12s firing towards each other, I have 28 15s firing towards each other. But I know what your saying but I dont see why it matters how loud you are, its about the vol control.
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I think that you might not be realizing the transfer function gain that you are getting from your setup the way it is and the fact that if you walled it off you would completely lose that gain. As for gaining 6db if that were the case you would be doing a 162 and up the voltage to 16 for another gain of 2 and you are a top three contender. I am in no way trying to hate but look at it this way my truck was made as a 2 seater and is still a 2 seater. It plays music it is a ported wedge it hits low but not much lower than 30 hz or so they are still just 10's. Your truck is totally awesome it is a woofer up port back box running 18's the doors must flap like crazy at 30 hz a site to be seen I am sure. I am guessing you are running the 1.4 coils that is a ton of power. Man you are so loud that we're even talking about you over here on the west east coast. I am not trying to turn this in to an arguement I would like to maybe have you take a step back and look at your overall system and see that is is not that ordinary that you think it is it is insanity wrapped up in a Tahoe.
Just so you know those 10's and the amps that power them have been in my truck since March, 04 and have never blown. I am guessing that your cargo area has more area than my whole setup also the box is 20ft3 but it is a wall so if you want the dimensions for the total volume not just internal it is 31hx41wx38d.
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I believe it should be left the way it is. I would have to agree with Will, your system doesn't seem a tame to me as you think it is. 2 BD 1500s per woofer is a lot of power for a street beater but it is what you wanted to do. Just like Will and Tommy wanted to build walls with lots of woofers. Just because it is in a no wall setup doesnt make it any less crazy than either of there systems. It always seems someone wants a class they can fit in without having to find a way to hang with anyone else. I find it much more impressive that you can put up numbers to compete with the cars with walls then I would if you were competting in a no-wall only class.
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My hat's off to the meade miester... i put a Crown and 16 MTX 15"s in my Excursion, once i figured out how to get it loud.....it was UNGODLY INSANE.....the roof looked as if it were going to sheer off....the sided flexed and bowed out like crazy,,,, wipers going nutz,,,,every interior piece trembling insanely.... H-E-L-L Y-E-A-H !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am not bashing on him, I think he is putting up a great number but I also believe all the cars in the 150s class should get props. But to make it out like all cars with a wall have an advantage isn't completly true, at the show in Orlando this weekend I saw lots of cars with walls and 4+ subs struggling to get into the high 130s doing bace race.
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im not to sure how i feel on this as i have not competed yet in bassrace, but the box i was using for spl did a ok number, and still street beats very nicely. i do belive tho that in the future there will be rules needed, as when the extreme guys do start to get into it... i mean, thats not exsactly a "street beater" lol...
but then again the EX vehicles will be in a high class anyways so
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I say leave it the way it is. Also I haven't seen an Extreme vehicle compete yet but since they are tune so high I don't see them doing big numbers like you guys think.
But I might be wrong...
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quote:Originally posted by Pipo: I say leave it the way it is. Also I haven't seen an Extreme vehicle compete yet but since they are tune so high I don't see them doing big numbers like you guys think.
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when we do bassrace round here after a dbdrag comp we all run in the 20-29.9 bractet so everyone has a chance. i was .1 off from beatin 4 15's in a wall with one 12 in my trunk. i like it just the way it is.
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sounds like fun and all to turn my stereo up to 3 instead of 43 so i could play in the 129 class but im not really into the control part of it. Im just tryin to build the hardest hitting street beater possible and do the highest average spl over 30seconds. If i messed up and qualified in the 140.- 149 class i can tell you on the next round id rather be DQ'd and bust BACK into the 150's then play around and stay at 149 and below. LOL Old man Mike McLelland is the same way, he was trapped in the high 140's teetering on a 50 and i was tellin him he should not try and go into my class because he EASILY had the 1st already. He said hell no i wanna be in the 150's........i just look at him with an evil grin and say go for it. He breaks the 50 barrier the next round and could give a damn about DQ'n himself To me thats more fun. I dont care about DQ'n myself either im tryin to out do my best score Luckily i havent had to do that since even after blowing 4 subs i managed to not drop below 150
Some of you guys can say this or that about the "control" part of bassrace and that may be true down in the 130's but i PROMISE if my man Will or Tommy^^^ were teetering on a 159.9 almost a 160 you might just want to go for it and be the first (and probabably only)
maybe its just me
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I think I have suggested it before but it would be nice for an exibition run at finals wo see who has the highest average after the competition (Bass race classes have all been finished). That way we could not only be competitive but also show who has the biggest bang. I would be totaly down for this. Even if it were for a minute instead of 30 seconds.
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quote:Originally posted by Will Alfonso: I think I have suggested it before but it would be nice for an exibition run at finals wo see who has the highest average after the competition (Bass race classes have all been finished). That way we could not only be competitive but also show who has the biggest bang. I would be totaly down for this. Even if it were for a minute instead of 30 seconds.
give me about 30 minutes to make some changes to my B set up and I would throw down with you guys in heart beat
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