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Bernie Madoff
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quote:
Originally posted by RCexplosion:
he must not be happy with results .

I personally would put the subs facing forward and
then make the loading wall 5-6 layers thick passengers side .

before you wreak it try the subs and port change
the subs on that wall may not work with that app
try moving them .

Ron, the loading wall is 11 1/2 inches thick.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
quote:
Originally posted by bignoiz:
just put a few sticks of dynamite in the van light the sumbitches then you'll be loud


[Laugh]

Is that what you did to your Jackhammer honey?
go get em lil tiger [Blob]

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Only 22 more months til that Jackhammer loan is paid off.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
quote:
Originally posted by RCexplosion:
he must not be happy with results .

I personally would put the subs facing forward and
then make the loading wall 5-6 layers thick passengers side .

before you wreak it try the subs and port change
the subs on that wall may not work with that app
try moving them .

Ron, the loading wall is 11 1/2 inches thick.
ok sweet .

well i did my last show in florida i will be heading north soon and leaving with the best number ever on the meter ,i even beat my florida state finals score from last season of 158.1

today i took second place with a 158.3 .

get ur done brother .don't tear it apart but improve it

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whats the problem anyway?

And you are doing this on the meter right? Not just by ear?

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Yes sir, by meter. It hits very hard, shakes everything but the numbers aren't where I would like it to be.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
Only 22 more months til that Jackhammer loan is paid off.

grrrr... go get em lil tiger [Laugh]

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hmm... i'm starting to think you're so obsessed over one of my subs you might just have have big sub envy [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
Yes sir, by meter. It hits very hard, shakes everything but the numbers aren't where I would like it to be.

wheres it at?

I see some BIG things you could change in that enclosure to get the numbers up


There is a gigantic dead pressure spot in that enclosure....between the baffle and the side of the enclosures thats hurting your SPL i'd build something to make it flush between there

And how big are the sealed enclosures? And are you sure they don't flex at all being built out of those 2x6s?

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Me personaly think that the seald boxes are tuned wrong and i would get rid of two of them subs and build the seald boxes a lil bigger or make them two per chamber. They look to small for the fs they need to play at.

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quote:
Originally posted by bignoiz:
hmm... i'm starting to think you're so obsessed over one of my subs you might just have have big sub envy [Big Grin]

No, just bugged out that out of the thousands of members on this forum, you were the only idiot who spent his little hard earned money on that piece of crap. Totally remarkable.
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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
Yes sir, by meter. It hits very hard, shakes everything but the numbers aren't where I would like it to be.

wheres it at?

I see some BIG things you could change in that enclosure to get the numbers up


There is a gigantic dead pressure spot in that enclosure....between the baffle and the side of the enclosures thats hurting your SPL i'd build something to make it flush between there

And how big are the sealed enclosures? And are you sure they don't flex at all being built out of those 2x6s?

Thanks Justin. Each sealed box is 1.6^3 and shouldn't flex. Built out of 2x10s and extensively bondoed and resined internally.
The ported chamber is around 56^3.
Tomorrow, I will move the sealed chambers around (again) and test. Before I put the loading wall in, I was at 48hz. I didn't get a chance to test with the wall so I actually don't know my frequency. All that will be done tomorrow.

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too small dude!!!

those are 18s??

You need like 2 cubes after displacement each


And the wall is going to make the numbers go up for sure

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Justin, the build year, each sub had 2.5^3 after displacement. Everyone kept telling me the smaller the sealed, the better.
Also I read the smaller a sealed enclosure is, the better or (less) the impedance rise will be. In this case, my rise is outrageous.

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Small and sealed should have a lower imp rise but the bigger the space, the lower the tuning.

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That's what I thought Dave.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
quote:
Originally posted by bignoiz:
hmm... i'm starting to think you're so obsessed over one of my subs you might just have have big sub envy [Big Grin]

No, just bugged out that out of the thousands of members on this forum, you were the only idiot who spent his little hard earned money on that piece of crap. Totally remarkable.
envy is a bytch isn't it ??

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It sure is loser.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Madoff:
Justin, the build year, each sub had 2.5^3 after displacement. Everyone kept telling me the smaller the sealed, the better.
Also I read the smaller a sealed enclosure is, the better or (less) the impedance rise will be. In this case, my rise is outrageous.

Its going to be outrageous in a sealed enclosure anyway

You can always make load the amps down to account for that.

But that small is hurting your output, believe what you want though man

My truck when I rebuilt it to play music the subs were in 10 cubes before displacement and it would bass race over a 161

Under 2 cubes each your numbers start to go down with 18s

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I appreciate it Justin. You know, I had in my mind that I wanted to burp a 55 and I would be happy. My best is a 53 and change but you know, I only have 8k and I'm not going to up my watts, not this year anyway. Maybe I'm reaching to high for 8k.
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I don't think so man

When I had the 3 DD 9917s I was able to do a 156 with 1 crossfire 2000d

These things are so efficient they dont' really have a lot of gain going to more power


Just don't give up and keep playing with it...try bigger sealed enclosure I GURANTEE that will give you a gain

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I plan to play with it and make it work. I am tired of building! Guess I will go back to 10^3 for the subs.
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good luck i hope you get it figured out

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quote:
Originally posted by bignoiz:
good luck i hope you get it figured out

Thank you very much sir and best of luck to you as well.
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i agree with justin. 18"s in a 4th order should be in 2.25-3cf.net each for the sealed side, depending where you want to tune.
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