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dkmst23
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I am goin to use caps for my box so I can glue down the vinyl yet beable to change out the port braod for tuning

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I filled my screw holes with filler than sanded flush. I to used house hold vinyl that was avail. and cheap to do my box! The trick was Heat Gun. Worked like a charm. This was the first box that Vinyled, and it came out great! If you use a good strong high temp adhesive you can heat the vinyl and stretch it into the port opening. Cut it flush with the top layer of MDF, and all will be happy! I found some heat activated 3M adhesive at a local surplus store that worked great and held tight for the last 2 years on another project I did.
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I am in the process of revinyling right now I will post pics.

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147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
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quote:
Originally posted by dkmst23:
I am goin to use caps for my box

do you mean these things?

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no caps like you get from lowes so I can glue the vinyl down yet still can the slot port broad without ripping all the vinyl out.

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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quote:
Originally posted by dkmst23:
no caps like you get from lowes so I can glue the vinyl down yet still can the slot port broad without ripping all the vinyl out.

well I'm lost...

whats wrong with the things I suggested? you wanted to cover the screws... those cover the screws... [Confused]

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no, I used the ones where you insert the screw and then snap the top on when it is tight.

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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quote:
Originally posted by dkmst23:
no, I used the ones where you insert the screw and then snap the top on when it is tight.

can you use those with countersunk screws?
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kindof, but not really, however they don't need to be countersunk with those kinds of covers.

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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quote:
Originally posted by Death By Bass:
****!

people PAY you to install things, and you can't even put vinyl on a flat surface.... [Roll Eyes]

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Good Lord [Eek!]

Next time, make a fiberglass port, paint it black so it matches the vinyl an stick it in. Also, you have to smoothe the edges of the box because vinyl "reflects" the smallest imperfections. One trick I've learned is to carpet the enclosure first (or stuff it with thin polyfill) then wrap it in vinyl. That way the imperfections are hidden and the surface will be even.

As far as hiding the screws, the trick is to avoid putting screws in sight to begin with. Now if you have no choice but to conceal the screws, you can fabricate a panel and wrap it in vinyl. Use heat gun and stretch it well. Use low profile staples and staple the back of the panel.. THEN you can either use contact cement OR those panel holders suggested above to stick it in place.

have fun [Big Grin]

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I have less than 8 hours to build that box and I was on a tight budget the person did not care about how it looked as long as it was decent.

I redid my box. but because I will be modding it all year the screws that need to be pulled have capps over them. I will put picks up later,

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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quote:
Originally posted by dkmst23:
I have less than 8 hours to build that box and I was on a tight budget the person did not care about how it looked as long as it was decent.

but in 8 hours, you could have done alot better than that... right? :confused:

you could have just made the box and not covered it in anything... Thats what I would have done (especially if the person didn't mind what it looked like)

oh well :)

hows the box going?

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the girl wanted it cover with that vinyl it was her choice.

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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I dont mean to be an ass or anything but thats one of the worst installs Ive ever seen... clean that shyt up!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Pitbull:
I dont mean to be an ass or anything but thats one of the worst installs Ive ever seen... clean that shyt up!!

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counter sink/bondo/sand
you have to stretch the vinyl too

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please tell me you do not have 4Ga wire leading to your fuse holder, then 0Ga out from there?

and how did it become a customer, then a girl you know, to now your wife?

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it would indeed look like that...

and then a 4GA earth cable [Smile]

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no it was while i was waiting for new fuses now it is o gauge from battery to battery.
and the ground is a piece of 2 guage i had laying around. plus there is a 8 guage going to the alt. biggest ring i could get on the alt. those pics are two months old now not much is the same.

DBB if a my is bad what spl level have you hit. my best right now is 146.4 on a ac-190 and still climbing

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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ok kids no point in fighting =)

just for the record....i had 1 10 and a 2000d doing a 147.9 on the termlab

that vinyl looks like poop, period

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those are my vehicles...notice the sexy vinyl....ALSO to hide screws in vinyl, you cut a very small slit in the vinyl if you use good glue...run the screw in and then push the vinyl back together...makes a perfect seam you can't see =)

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that was fun to read....

home vinyl... lol

good stuff.. haha

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hey teamSubGoPoof

at my atomic line is in stock unlike incriminator

here is what it looks like now

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dkmst23/detail?.dir=cc08&.dnm=f2e3.jpg&.src=ph

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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wow this has been a funny post to read, dude cant even type sentences that make sense!

and last time i checked at walmart or joann fabrics for vinyl, i must have missed the "automotive" vinyl section and the "household" vinyl section

its vinyl, period. it stretches. some more than others. use good glue that is strong and it wont matter tremendously if it doesnt stretch alot

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im going to have to try the "cutting a small slit in the vinyl" idea soon. i have a panel i made out of mdf i need to cover. will you be able to get to the screw and not junk it all up if u needed to take it out? i have to put a few screws through the wood to secure the panel in, and the panel needs to be able to be removed by those same screws.

here's the panel as of right now for reference, the screws are gonna go along the edges every few inches, just enough to hold it on good

http://thebitch.ath.cx/~clitty/1/5.jpg


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next time you are at joan fabics thier is a list of uses for the vinyl above the racks the first vinyl was like a table cloth it have a bad backing

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atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm

147.4 dbs import wars loudest of the day

apx quad 1ohm 2 dd m1's datasafe hx400 wait no powercell pc4000
145.8 dbs

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