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the vinyl has a lot to do with it, It wasn't made to stretch. if it stretched then there wouldn't be any wrinkles and it was done in less then a half an hour. if you take the time to read crap on vinyl then you would realize that household vinyl is not designed to do the same thing as automotive vinyl it has nothing to do with the price of vinyl it has to do with the type of vinyl and if I didn't know what I was doing, then I wouldn't know that you need automotive vinyl.
and the amp is fine. the manufacture says that inverting it is NOT a problem
-------------------- atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm
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Say what you want, that battery is dangerous. The fact you have had it that way for whatever period means nothing---it is a flat out hazard. If you ever get a spark back there--your car will explode. Don't believe, do a search in the DB Drag section. About 3 years ago a competitor had it happen with his van. Flat out dangerous.
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and the amp is fine. the manufacture says that inverting it is NOT a problem
i took the time to slap this together on paint for you.
HMMMMMm which one do you think is better for the amp LOL. I mean i already said if your taking it easy its probably iiiiight but if that amp has to do any real work then it cant disipate heat properly and that will lead to problems.
As far as the vinyl is concerned, it may be not so good vinyl but that isnt the reason the FLAT areas look like doo doo. Thats all you. There shouldnt be any stretching on flat open surfaces. If you tried to turn a corner and it wouldnt cooperate thats one thing but you should be able to lay anything you want on a flat surface and keep it flat. It looks like you pulled that vinyl out of the hamper to tell you the truth. Heres an example, this is also cheap vinyl that wouldnt stretch worth a damn.
you just have to be patient and use good glue. Preparing the surface is very important as well, probably more important then the quality of material. YOu can make the worst material look good if you take your time and do it right
-------------------- Rockford Fosgate FiCarAudio Team PowerMaster
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by the way, in no way do i want to pile on and diss on you at all, i also have alot to learn and i do every day.......im just tryin to tell you to not blame the material
-------------------- Rockford Fosgate FiCarAudio Team PowerMaster
quote:Originally posted by Meade916: by the way, in no way do i want to pile on and diss on you at all, i also have alot to learn and i do every day.......im just tryin to tell you to not blame the material
hey me too! nice drawing there btw
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That box has no glue because I had none and no time to get any the girl was here for 3 three days and two were spent at a spl comp.
My box is a spl box it will be modded about every two weeks for the rest of the year if I glue the vinyl I would be wasting alot of vinyl.
I understand the battery thing as a chemist (BS)And I know with good control and maintance I can control it. But also I don't have the money for a sealed battery at this time since I am feeding a family
and that amp is really stable I ran it upright for four months beating it. And it never heated up. About safety how spl competitors actually used a fuse because in nature that is a spl box with vinyl up it with no glue. Good thing because I am moding the box this week.
Best part is I needed a answer to a question and I only got one good answer. THe rest of bashing like always this forum is good at it I hope SS1-2 mike comes back his last reply helped
-------------------- atomic apoc 15 with spl mod and a atomic 1500.1 at .5 ohm
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what do you think about this box? I am curious as to how well you think my vinyl work was done. I paid a good bit for it. However it is dusty, I live on a dirt road. Thanks yall
they aren't 100% upside down though. The cooling they have is probably 10X better than what yours has, but 10 times a small number is still a pretty small number...
having them up the right way would probably make cooling 10 times better again. and just because someone else put the amps up the WRONG way doesn't mean its a good idea.
quote: what do you think about this box? I am curious as to how well you think my vinyl work was done. I paid a good bit for it. However it is dusty, I live on a dirt road. Thanks yall
yeah, it looks fairly decent, the FLAT sides are FLAT, although you probably could have done it yourself for a few dollars...
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I did it myself. just to prove my point!! I am DKMST23's wife!!! I do all the vinyl work,I just said I had to pay for to get a normal response. The other box was done with left over vinyl, that was used on this box. It was not kept for any reason, it was leftover and happened to be used that is why it was wrinkled. and the wrinkles are out now that heat was applied to it from the sun. AND I used no glue for the box you said was decent
as for the picture of the amps inverted,
The cooling they have is probably 10X better than what yours has, but 10 times a small number is still a pretty small number...
IT IS MY AMP!!! why would it be 10x better if it is the SAME AMP! what is the difference between that and the heat problems from having on its side!
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quote:Originally posted by dbgirlfriend: IT IS MY AMP!!! why would it be 10x better if it is the SAME AMP! what is the difference between that and the heat problems from having on its side!
having the amps on an angle would help alot with cooling compared to having them upside down... although, its like this: the amp upside down, the heatsink is working at 1% effectiviness, while the one at an angle is at 10%, whereas mounting the amp up the RIGHT way, would be 100%
those numbers are OFCOURSE made up. BUT, it gives the general idea.
ps. I said the vinyl looked decent, not excellent... see the difference?
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excuse me? now we are here to bad mouth again, you are the one who said I couldn't make it flat on flat surfaces and there is not a wrinkle or a flaw in that one! That is one I did for a customer, not for myself, I could careless what mine looks like! as long as it isn't wood! And as for the GENERAL IDEA....IF THE MANUFACTURE SAYS IT CAN BE INVERTED THAN THAT MEANS YOU ARE WRONG AND IT IS NOT GOING TO HEAT UP! IT IS DESIGNED TO TAKE BEING INVERTED, DUH!
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quote:Originally posted by dbgirlfriend: excuse me? now we are here to bad mouth again, you are the one who said I couldn't make it flat on flat surfaces and there is not a wrinkle or a flaw in that one!
And as for the GENERAL IDEA....IF THE MANUFACTURE SAYS IT CAN BE INVERTED THAN THAT MEANS YOU ARE WRONG AND IT IS NOT GOING TO HEAT UP! IT IS DESIGNED TO TAKE BEING INVERTED, DUH!
Well good... it shouldn't have any wrinkles is someone was paying you for it.
and so much for the excuse on the other box that it was cheap vinyl, and not designed for car use.
Also, the manufacturer may say the amp can be used upside down, but I wouldn't.
You can't design a heatsink to work well upside down. MAYBE it works well enough, but I still wouldn't do it.
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well I never asked if you would do it, the question was once again!!!
HOW DO YOU HIDE SCREWS IN VINYL??? NOT HOW DOES MY AMP LOOK!!
and yes I was paid for that. THAT WAS MY VERT FIRST BOX I HAVE EVER DONE!!! the excuse was, that since it was not stretchy vinyl, which it isn't, when it was stored for garbage, since it was leftover I was getting rid of it, it got wrinkles in it. therefore since it isn't strechty there is nothing I could do with the wrinkles until the sun heated the vinyl. AND the original box that was posted DOES NOT have a wrinkle in it either, just screw holes where my husband added additions to the box, unhelpable screw holes
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quote:Originally posted by dbgirlfriend: well I never asked if you would do it, the question was once again!!!
HOW DO YOU HIDE SCREWS IN VINYL??? NOT HOW DOES MY AMP LOOK!!
its good to see you're attempting to change the topic back to what it started as when you realise you're wrong
anyway, like I said, you can get those plug things like are used on alot of computer desks, and cheap furniture thats made with laminated chipboard. Its the only thing I can think of. They would look half decent. Maybe someone has a better idea?
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I am not wrong By the way your idea stinks how will that hide the screws under vinyl instead I will be looking a wood through the vinyl. the atomic 1500 D is one of the most stable amps I have ever worked this I am running it at a half ohm. We played it for four hours right side up and the amp never broke a sweat never even got to room temp( cold to touch) so I turned it inverted it it nothing Yet most street competitors turn thier amps on thier side so that most the a heat sinks are side ways. By the way a heat sink will drawn heat from any direction. The metal used in a heat sink is such a a good heat conductor it will draw heat from any direction and then loss it with easy. that is way they use them. It is just piontless to argue with you because you will argue even if you are wrong. Maybe the heat transfer is not perfect but if a am does not transfer heat right side up then why does it need to tranfer heat inverted
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quote:Originally posted by dbgirlfriend: I am not wrong By the way your idea stinks how will that hide the screws under vinyl instead I will be looking a wood through the vinyl.
you obviously don't know what I'm talking about then. I couldn't find a pic, and I give up trying to help. You clearly have all the answers, so find the answer yourself.
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the topic back to what it started as when you realise you're wrong
no you clearly think you do Instead of letting me have my opinion on the topic you had to bring this back up.
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