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I have a 96 ranger splash that i want to make custom door panels to house 2 51/4" mids and 1 1" tweeter.does anybody have any ideas? I'm wanting to get rid of the factory panels and go full custom.i can use all the help i can get.
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here is some info i found on the web a while back, i forget what site, btu it really helped me in doing my panels
speaker pods
All advantages/disadvantages of pods are discussed in other sections of the website. This page describes building techniques. Step 1: Car Preparation Protect upholstery, carpet and panels by lining up with plastic and masking tape. If any resin gets to a seat or carpet, there is no way to get it out. Take the extra time to make sure any potential spill won't cause damages to your car. Make sure you will not interfere with clutch, hood release or other mechanical parts. Step 2: Making a Mold (Back Piece) If you are mounting the pod to a flat surface, such as a door panel, then all you have to do is to make a template out of cardboard. Use the template to transfer the contour of the area to a piece of particleboard or MDF. This is the back of your pod. If you are not lucky enough to have a flat surface to work with, you need to make a fiberglass back piece. For example, let's say you are building the pods to go in the corners of the floor, between the firewall and kick panels: Line the area to be molded with aluminum foil. This way, the mat won't stick to your car or liner. Cut a piece of fiberglass mat/cloth. It should be at least a couple inches bigger than the final pod size. You can either apply the resin to the mat with a paint brush, or dip the mat in the resin. Place the wet mat on the surface, let dry to hold shape. If the mat won't stay, or sticks to your gloves, use a paint brush. Sometimes masking or duct tape will help keeping the mat in position for curing. Fine metal mesh or chicken wire could help hold the fiberglass in place for curing when building complicated shapes. Let the piece cure. If once the piece has cured it is not hard enough, you might need to add one or two more layers of fiberglass. You can do this on a workbench. Remember, you are only trying to get the shape here, the back piece does not have to be rock-solid at this point. You now have the back piece of your pod. Other options is to cover a factory panel with cloth, add resin to the cloth for hardening, and use the factory panel as part of your kick panel. Step 3: Baffle (Front Piece) Fabrication The best material to work with is MDF. If the enclosure is for low energy applications (such as mids and tweeters), a couple layers of 1/4" plywood would work. With a jig saw, drill and router, you can build the baffle and mold it to accommodate your speakers. Carefully plan the layout, speaker mounting configuration and grilles. Step 4: Speaker Positioning/Aiming Once you have the baffle, connect wires to the speakers. Mount the speaker(s) on the baffle. Using metal braces, pieces of wood, etc, connect baffle and back part together to make a "skeleton". Metal braces are sometimes better because it is easier to re-aim. At this point, you don't care what it looks like. If you want, add some cloth to create some kind of a box effect. Don't worry about the back part of the speakers being semi-exposed. Start by aiming each pod to the opposite side, at ear height. From this starting point, play around with different aiming angles for best results. If you are competing, make sure good results are achieved from both front seats. If you don't care about passenger's side much, optimize aiming at driver's side. This is the most important part of the whole process, and may take weeks of critical listening to get ideal angling. Keep in mind that at this stage you want to optimize staging and imaging, not sound quality. The speakers will sound a lot better once the pods are closed off. Step 5: Joining the Baffle with the Mold Once speakers are aimed for best sound, remove speakers from baffle. Trim bottom part to desired size. There are different techniques to shape and wrap baffle and mold. A lot of people wrap the front and back "skeleton" with fleece cloth. Resin is applied to the cloth and left to harden. This is good for concave pods, but for rounded pods you might need to try a different approach: Fill in areas with a material you can remove later such as paper towels or foil. Apply first layer of fiberglass. It doesn't have to be perfect, just cover the intended volume with no major protrusions. Let it harden. Several layers will need to be added afterwards. How many depends on how hard you want the enclosure to be, and whether you are using fiberglass mat or cloth (cloth is thinner). Step 6: Smoothing the Pods Once you have a nice strong surface, add auto body filler (i.e. Bondo?) to round surface off. Let dry and sand. This process will have to be repeated at least twice, depending on finish desired and what you are using to cover up the pod. At the beginning, power tools can be used for sanding, but last steps might require hand sanding.
custom pannels Most panels follow the same construction process, no matter what materials you use: Making a template, building the frame (base), raising (if necessary), filling, smoothing and covering the panel. For example if you are making a door panel, you would first make a frame out of wood, then round off the edges by filling them with Bondo and covering up the whole thing with vinyl. Step 1: Making a template One of the easiest (and cheapest) methods is to use cardboard for the template. For example, you are making a one-piece panel for the trunk, that will go around a subwoofer and a couple of amps. Cut a (straight) end of the cardboard box and place it next to an amp. Keep cutting pieces of cardboard and gluing them with hot melt over each other to make a big template consisting of glued pieces of cardboard. This way, instead of figuring out the shape of one big piece, you will have to figure out the contour of a small part of the whole panel at a time. Once you come up with a template, make sure you have no gaps. If you have to bend the template to get it in and out, you will have trouble with the final panel, since the panel will most likely not bend. You might want to split the design in two or more panels. Plan ahead of time what material you are going to use to cover up the panel, and subtract the thickness of the material from the panel. For example, if you are using vinyl, you might want to reduce the outline of the panel by 1/8", but if you use carpet, maybe 3/8" will work better. Place the template over the material you are cutting. Trace the outline with a pencil. Cut using a circular saw on the flat parts, and a jigsaw on the curved parts. Use good saw blades to get smooth cuts (this will save you some work later). After the panel is cut, take it back to the car and make sure that it fits, check that whatever material you are using to cover it up fits in between the gaps. If you took the time making a good template, then the panel should be a pretty good fit. Step 2: Raising the panel If you are making a flat panel, then go to step three, if not, keep reading. On this panel we are making as an example, we are planning to raise edges around the panel to outline the amps. Make a square "ring" around a hole and screw it to themain panel. Then, make another ring (this one smaller outside), and screw it on top of the first ring. Keep going until you get to the desired height and shape. (It is a lot easier to do various 1/4" levels, rather than trying to shape one thick piece of wood. You only have to get an approximate shape. The gaps will be filled on the next step. Fiberglass can also be used here. Step 3: Filling and smoothing out edges On the previous panel, there are gaps in edges of the layers of rings. Fill the gaps using a material such as Bondo. Try to get a shape as close as possible to what you want. Once the filling material is dry, sand the panel down. Additional layers might need to be applied for a good finish. If you are using a thin material to cover up the panel, such as vinyl or grille cloth, then you need a very smooth surface. On the other hand, if you are using carpet, or padded vinyl, then you don't have to worry about sanding the panel down too much. Step 4: Covering the panel Most of the time, spray glue is the adhesive of choice. You can get a can of 3M (or similar) spray adhesive at any hardware store for about $10. Cut the covering material (i.e. vinyl) around the shape of the panel, leaving at least a two-inch overlap. Place the covering material upside down and spray the glue over it. Also spray the panel. Let sit for about a minute, and place the panel on the covering material, stretching the fabric over the panel. Use a clean rag on the surface to make sure the whole top of the panel is in contact with the fabric. Flip the panel over and spray glue on the overlap, and edges of the panel. Cut the overlap as you go to fit edges and corners. It is good practice to staple the fabric on the underside, since glue will sometimes not hold very good when the car gets hot. Figure on your initial design how you are going to hold the panel. You do not want to have screws messing up your panel's finish. Pressure fitting requires a bit of skill, but is the cleanest way to go. Materials If you are using the panel just to cover up an install, the you don't need a 3/4" particleboard panel, adding more weight to your car. Plywood will do just fine. On the other hand, if you are building a sub box, you don't want to use anything that will bend. Common panel materials are particleboard, MDF, plywood, various metals, Plexiglas and other plastics, even fiberglass. To fill gaps and smooth out surfaces, you usually want a material that will adhere to the panel extremely well, and will be hard. Most installers use Bondo (car body filler), epoxy (for small fixes), and fiberglass. There are many materials used to cover up panels. The most popular are carpet, vinyl, leather and various types of fabrics ranging from speaker cloth to velour. You can also add padding under the cover material. There are many materials and finishes available. It just takes practice to see what material is best for each application. Even though there is no single way to build a panel, following the above guidelines will give you an idea of the basic process. The rest you will just have to figure out by trial and error. Even though whole panels can be build using simple tools such as handsaws and sandpaper, power tools will greatly reduce fabrication time, especially when sanding.
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Auto Sound & Security had some stuff with Fish & Mad Dog doing all kinds of custom fiberglass on the jensen van. They showed some nice Door panel pics....go search around for it, not sure what month but is recent...hope you can find it!!!
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