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this is going to be for 3 12s in the back of my crx! gonna be the hotness woohooo!!

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looks nice so far! keep us posted on progress but 1 post at a time will do [Wink]

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yeh ill keep postin pics as i get farther along, i didnt mean to post 3 times, i kept messing up putting the pics on and it just reloaded it everytime i went back, o well.

this is my first fiberglass enclosure, so it might take a while to finish. but when i do i have to make the amp rack!

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mmmmmmmmm fiberglasss. thats the good stuff.

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That is awesome!!! How did you do that? I got a civic and plan on doing something like that but I dont know how.
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Looks sweet. I'd bondo the back portion of that box before any more layers. Could be a beech to sand those ruffles.

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yeh i already sanded the wrinkles out then glassed over the holes left from the wrinkles on both top and bottom of it. the rest of the rough spots like on the front the round area, i just dumped alot of bondo-glass and sanded it to shape i like, and tomorrow im going to glass over the bondoglass a couple layers, and stick about 5 more layers on the back of it! might start my amp rack tomorow too

ill take some more pics tomorrow maybe

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more pics. not too much more i just tried to get the wrinkles out and make the shapes more defined and round.
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man thats looking nice. keep it up.

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when are you gonna take a carbon cutting bit and cut that last brick along your driveway in half so it doesnt have to lean against the hosue like that? might take a few minutes. youll probably need to water it while you work on it but your mom will like it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve-o:
when are you gonna take a carbon cutting bit and cut that last brick along your driveway in half so it doesnt have to lean against the hosue like that? might take a few minutes. youll probably need to water it while you work on it but your mom will like it.

That's what a Judo chop is for. [Big Grin]

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ill go wack it with a hammer in a few minutes and see what happens! easier than cutting it, i dont see why my dad didnt cut that one when he was puttin those things down. o well
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Kephart:
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Originally posted by Steve-o:
when are you gonna take a carbon cutting bit and cut that last brick along your driveway in half so it doesnt have to lean against the hosue like that? might take a few minutes. youll probably need to water it while you work on it but your mom will like it.

That's what a Judo chop is for. [Big Grin]

"I know Karate, and a couple other japanese words."

thats the funniest thing ive ever heard.

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added some more layers this morning and started on the base for my amp rack ill get some pics of of that once i start to glass it.

o and does anybody know if the rockford he2 subs are any good. i was going to get hx2s but i can save some money w/ the he2s on both subs and amps.

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I actually recently had some experience with an HX2. One of my friends was borrowing a 10 in a pre-fab sealed box from a friend, and had his brother-in-law install everything [Roll Eyes] . Well since I am not using my Brahma 10 now due to a broken CD player, I let him borrow it. So I took the HX2 out and set it next to the B10 in it's .36 cubic feet sealed box. The Brahma box dwarfed the HX2 box. But when you pick up the two, the Brahma is sooooo much heavier.

Anyway, I hooked the Brahma up to my friends amp and turned the gains down (they were up all the way [Roll Eyes] ). But it was playing like crap. After finding the Bass Boost up all the way as well [Eek!] , I turned it down and then the Brahma started sounding like it should, perfect. I asked my friend what he thought. He said it sounded a lot better than the HX2, which I'm not surprised after all the clipping. But he said (and I totally agreed) it was a lot louder. That actually shocked me a little bit. The smaller sub/box is louder than the other one. I'm not too impressed with the HX2.

Now it could have been a power issue. The HX2 was running at 4 ohms bridged to two channels of the eclipse amp. The Brahma, after shutting off the eclipse amp at 1 ohm bridged [Big Grin] , was then wired 2 ohms stereo bridged. The eclipse amp was a 4 channel amp. So there was a little more power going to the Brahma. But not enough to show that much of an improvement in output I didn't think.

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BTW, I don't know what the price is on the HX2, so my comparison may be somewhat unfair. After all, the Brahma is an expensive sub. But it is mainly an SQ sub, and a lot more inefficient due to the smaller box.

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I used to work for a shop that sold RF product, and I actually turned a good many people away from buying them, and recommended the pioneer IMPP (first gen) subs instead. IMO RF makes doo doo subs. But killer amps though. [Big Grin]

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well the reason im thinking of just upgrading the subs becuase right now i have 2 12inch rockford punchz's, the cheap ones from bestbuy. and to me w/ the ****ty "1000"w sony amp i have its amazingly loud for what it is, especially in the horrible qlogic box. and it actually sounds pretty good sq wise as long as i dont turn it up too mcuh. and no clipping. and im kinda on a cheap budget, but i can get the hx2 for about 130 a piece on ebay. but ican get the he2 for around 70-80 a piece. plus if i had the he2 id be running the perfect amount of power. or the correct power thats recommended. i think ill just order one, and see how that goes. then ill think about the adire.
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youd be better off with some nice alpines or if you can find some old style jl audio w6's. eventually that sony amp is goingto do exaclty what it says its going to do, explode. my brother used nothing but sony for a long time, all his amps are now dead, all the subs he had are now dead, his head unit we put in his friends car after he got rid of the sony gear. so we were in his friends car one day and the HU started smoking...he rips off the trim bezel then pulls out the radio, rips off akll the cords and throw the thing out the window while we were driving. then he threw out the remote too. sony is junk.

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I know you've probably heard this before, but....
You get what you pay for. The only manufacturer of subs that doesn't stick to this rule, is Elemental Designs. They sell a killer woofer for a low price, but the cheapest 12" sub that they have is $135. Comparable woofers are easily $180-$250. Linkage:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/main.htm

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well. i already ordered an he2. if i think the cheap punch z ones sound good then ill prolly think the he2 sounds better. o well. now i need to order an amp tho.

im having a hard time getting the top baffle strong enough..ive put about 4 or 5 layers and it still flexes some.

also i glassed the amp rack w/ bout 2 layers and its ready to bondo and sand so i should finish that tomorrow.

ill get some pics up later tonight after school too. lata

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quote:
Originally posted by Snootch:
I know you've probably heard this before, but....
You get what you pay for. The only manufacturer of subs that doesn't stick to this rule, is Elemental Designs. They sell a killer woofer for a low price, but the cheapest 12" sub that they have is $135. Comparable woofers are easily $180-$250. Linkage:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/main.htm

I disagree. The Adire Audio Shiva is an extremely close competitor with that sub and sells for $125. So there are more companies not sticking to that rule. The Shiva has been doing this for years, and only recently has some companies tried to make a competing woofer. [Wink]

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arg! building up suckssss. ive got like 5 layers on there now and it still flexes some and isnt strong enough. i was thinkin aboug piling tons of bondoglass on the underneath of the enclosure. would this work, i know its just about as strong as fiberglass from working w/ it before. and it would really help getting into some tight places.?? [Mad]

im also having trouble thinking of how im going to attach the baffle to the top of the box, and attaching the amp rack to the other thing i made for it to go on. i guess this is what happens when you dont plan out and just start cutting and stuff. o well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Kephart:
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Originally posted by Snootch:
I know you've probably heard this before, but....
You get what you pay for. The only manufacturer of subs that doesn't stick to this rule, is Elemental Designs. They sell a killer woofer for a low price, but the cheapest 12" sub that they have is $135. Comparable woofers are easily $180-$250. Linkage:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/main.htm

I disagree. The Adire Audio Shiva is an extremely close competitor with that sub and sells for $125. So there are more companies not sticking to that rule. The Shiva has been doing this for years, and only recently has some companies tried to make a competing woofer. [Wink]
Yes, I apologize, I forgot about Adire audio, The same applies for them. I've also just recently came across another company that seems to make a solid 12" (at least from looking at the T/S parameters) for just over $100, The Stryker AV12.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snootch:
Yes, I apologize, I forgot about Adire audio, The same applies for them. I've also just recently came across another company that seems to make a solid 12" (at least from looking at the T/S parameters) for just over $100, The Stryker AV12.

Ah yes. Stryke is another new company similar to ED making cost effective subs. But from what I understand, they are mainly designed for home audio.

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If you want to stiffen it up easier, try soaking some 1/2" rope in resin and sticking it to the inside of the box in swirls. Or, fold a peice of cardboard to make an "L" shape, and attach it to the inside using resin, then cover it with glass and resin to make a solid brace out of FG.

Neither of the above are my ideas.

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