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low_rider
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I was just wondering how yall seall your subs from the box. I used to run Kicker subs and they had a type of foam under the rim that made contact with the wood and thought that sealed good. But now should I use tac-o stuff inbetween the box and the sub?

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You can buy foam weather stripping in various widths and thicknesses at most home improvement stores.
I've seen people use strip caulk or plumbers' putty as well, but it's too messy for me.

NEVER use silicone!

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why can't you use silicone?

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Its said that it can eat away at the surround of a sub before its dried up. the fumes can.

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Dukk
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Not really my reason. Silicone will glue the woofer to the wood. This makes for a very likely chance of warping a steel frame when it is forced free. Cast frames hold up better, but what's the point?
I'm not sure if they still do, but Vega used to void the warranty of any woofer coming into repair with silicone on it...

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DUKK, is correctit can be very hard to get a woofer out if the whole is cut correctly and silicone is applied to the basket. it really depends on how you cover the enclosure? carpet, vinyl you already have a good seal.. however on formica, fiberglass, or just paint you will need sometype of foam stripping.

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For a non SQ install would a VERY small air leak around the sub cause great problems? in SPL..

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YES, IT CAN. it could cause cancellation or loss of pressure.
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Danny - it's nice to see another reasonable person who figures that carpet or vinyl is it's own gasket.

Good job moderator-san...

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thanks dukk

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We either use the gasket that the driver comes with or use closed cell weather stripping on all boxes, whether covered with carpet, formica, or what not.

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the JL webpage says that the surrounds on their subs can take the fumes released during the curing process of the silicon. so I used silicon to seal my JL onto the box. I don't plan on taking it off any time soon

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from what I hear it is only JL's that can do that also don't try that to much

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I have siliconed my fair share of woofers over the last 11 years and have NEVER had a foam gasket failure. Of course, 99% of them have been vented so there is lots of air circualtion but IMO it just doesn't happen.

MACROSS - I believed the same thing until I had to remove a woofer. Good luck.

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I don't think silicon will harm any of todays foam surrounds. I mainly build home enclosures...but I've used the old HSU 1201s, the avalon LE12 and 15s...the avatar SHIVAs...and a bunch of custom 12" driver that all use foam surrounds.

After I screw the driver in...I just run a THIN bead of silicon around in the frame/baffle edge. When I want to remove the driver...I slice the silicon with a razor...and the driver pops right out.

One thing you DO have to be careful of though...when using combinations of silicon,spray glue(for fiberglass stuffing)...different paints...ect,ect.

it possible for the fumes to actually weaken the adhesives holding the driver together. When possible...I always try to let the enclosure sit and air out for a day before I crank it up....unless I don't really care if the driver blows apart.


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OK...just take a look here people...your local Auto Zone has a super ingenius thing called CAMPER SHELL TAPE..it comes in about a 20-25' length..and is 1.5" wide...it compresses to nearly nothing..less than 1/16" you run an OLFA blade down the center of the tape..to the cardboard core. that will give you 40-50' of tape to use..it bends side to side with no problems..seales ANYTHING.

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