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Does anybody know a place that has a step by step process on how to make kicks? I think I know how to do it but I would like to see how it is done before I go ahead and do it and screw something up. Also does anybody know a place to get all the materials at a descent price? I think I only need fiberglass resin, fiberglass cloth, paint brush, gloves, vinyl, and bondo. What else do I need?
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I find grill cloth to be much easier to work with than fiberglass cloth. Also I prefer to use bondo-glass its stronger than regular bondo. You will also need a sander. you can probably go to Home Depot and find most of the stuff. Hope this helps have fun with it and take your time.
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I don't have a Home Depot around here. Will Lowes have everything like that. Speaker grill cloth instead of fiberglass cloth? Also how much will everything cost? How long do you think it will take to do? I plan on setting aside three days to do it. Will that be enough?
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I would think any hardware store would have most of the stuff. Speaker grill cloth is easier to work with but not stronger than the fiberglass mat. When I did mine I did it on my spare time so it took me aout a month that is working on them like twice a week for about 2 hours so I dont know if three days is enough.I bought a gallon for $35, about $5 worth of brushes(39 cents each), $8 for a box of latex gloves, grill cloth I got for free from a friend but is about $12 for a fairly large piece, bondo glass you could get from paint store (car paint).
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Well I found the resin, bondo, cloth, and hardner. The hardner cam in like a 3oz. tube, how much should I get to make kicks with? Also does bondo glass work any better?
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Usually when I buy a can of resin it comes with the hardner but I always buy an extra one just in case I'm a little short. Bondo glass is stronger than regular bondo. Or so I've been told.
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I would recommend tring some "test" peices first to get into practice with how much to mix and all. If you mix the fiber glass to strong it will get HOT and melt the cloth. For Cloth I find some 10%nomex and 90% cotton and it streches really well! Look in a large fabaric store for it. Grill cloth will work to if you find it or don't want to look. Once you got the shape layer up the glass with glass mat, not the mat that is all fraid out, use the smooth wooven mat.
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my best jobs yet have come from using a sweatshirt fabric, you can get it at any material store, it absorbs the perfect amount of resin for stregth, but doesnt use so much that you waste resin !
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For parts that require strength, use woven fiberglass cloth. There is no substitute.
You can use grille cloth or whatever cheap cloth you already have, but ONLY use it for the first layer.
The main reason for using grille cloth or cotton is to stretch it over a form, then coat it with some resin to make it hold the shape. This is an easier way to make the shapes you want.
Do NOT rely on resin soaked fleece, cotton, grille cloth, t-shirt, used underwear or etc. for strength. None of those materials have any strength whatsoever, but they are great for making forms.
After you have the first layer of cheap material in (it actually isnt that much cheaper than the right fiberglass products)you can then layer on fiberglass cloth.
First put down a layer of 10oz fiberglass cloth, then a layer of 3/4oz fiberglass mat (the random fiber stuff), then another layer of the 10oz cloth, and another layer of 3/4oz mat.
Yer done..
Now get to sanding it to smooth it out. The final layer of 3/4oz mat is actually optional, but I suggest you use it because when you start sanding you dont want to be sanding into the structural part which is the cloth.
Two yard of cloth will be $10. Two yards of 3/4oz mat is $4.
Two yards of each is being pretty excessive too but depending on the size of your kickpanels and if you waste alot of material, you may not get by with one yard. You can always use the extra stuff in a future project anyways.
I never throw a piece of cloth out, every last sq. inch gets used.
You could use another type of cloth called a knytex biaxial cloth. This stuff runs about $8 per yard, but you would only need two layers of it in your kickpanels because it is really strong! It's a heavy cloth that has mat stitched to one side so you only need to use this one material. I've been using this stuff for my most recent structural work.
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