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Ok we gotta do someting if we don't want this to become the status quo for all cities. If one city can do this, they all can. Maybe the big companies should pay more attention to this kind of stuff. What would you all suggest?http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/275F57729BE6E21F86257104001AFB1F?OpenDocument
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City police would be able to seize cars blasting loud music under an ordinance passed Friday by the Board of Aldermen.
The ordinance, which would take effect once signed by Mayor Francis Slay, prohibits the use and even installation of some enhanced speakers.
Alderman Craig Schmid's proposal easily had enough votes to pass, but only after aldermen turned up the volume on their own concerns. Impounding a car for playing loud music is too severe, opponents said, and ripe for abuse.
"It's almost idiotic for us to take somebody's car for something like that," Alderman Stephen Conway said.
Schmid said he wanted to send a "strong message" to drivers who cruise through residential areas, jarring neighbors and rattling windows.
"I analogize it to auditory graffiti," Schmid said.
Other aldermen said loud music coming from cars is among their top complaints from constituents. The music gets so loud, said Alderman Dionne Flowers, that when "you're in bed, you fall out."
The bill would prohibit operating car stereo equipment that creates "louder volume than is necessary for convenient, normal hearing," which is the same language as the city's current anti-noise ordinance.
But the new measure would outlaw possessing or installing any car stereo with a speaker over a foot in diameter; having more than one speaker 10 inches in diameter; more than 10 speakers overall; more than two amplifiers; and any amplifier over 300 watts.
In addition to impounding the car, possible penalties include a minimum of $250 fine on the first offense and $500 on subsequent offenses within a year.
The city's push to quiet loud music is not new - the Board of Aldermen passed a bill targeting cars with loud music 10 years ago.
On Friday, some aldermen complained that the measure is heavy-handed. Stephen Gregali, who represents the 14th Ward, questioned whether police would get rulers to measure the length of speakers.
"It's like killing an ant with a howitzer," Alderman Charles Q. Troupe said of the measure.
Bob Pfeiffer, who has been installing custom car stereos for 23 years in St. Louis, said the ordinance could destroy his business.
"I might as well lock my doors now," said Pfeiffer, who operates Automotion Alarm and Car Stereo on North Broadway.
Not all "tricked out" stereos are used for cruising and thumping music, said Pfeiffer, whose his clients include jazz musicians.
"What a crock," Pfeiffer said. "It's really a bogus bill."
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that law also means they can pull u over if they suspect u have a loud system in your ride.that would kind of suck if u are from out of town going to do a spl competition there and they see all the decals on your vehicle. thats a load of crap
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That law should be considered cruel and unusual punishment. It is unconstitutional. Let’s see what GM and Toyota think.
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It's simple 1 man screwed up this country so bad and the fund's are not there no more so new law's will be passed to give back money to the states and goverment look at CA raised cig taxes now they are $7.00 a pack. And not texas is going to let drug dealer's sell drug's but they have to pay taxes again back to the goverment.
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This has been going on for years! The first major city in the US that started it was Chicago! I watched it as a manufacturer destroy sales by 30% within a 2 month period. Unfortunately this has become a selective enforcement issue with Law enforcement ie.. profiling. As in young people with loud stereos and souped up cars are a prime revenue generator for local,state municipalities. A loud stereo will give probable cause to "illegal search and seizure" which if any of these knee jerk communist,tree huggers would read the constitution is not what this country was founded on. Then there is the other side! I myself as a car audio enthusiast do not appreciate inappropriate use of your system to invade my space! RESPECT! MATURITY! INTEGRITY! Character is what you do when nobody is watching!
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Woo hoo...Thank you...I needed to see that.
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