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2000LaDe
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straight from the rules

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During the competition competitors must ensure that the music they are playing can be heard
clearly outside (e.g. at minimum one window, door or panel must be open at all times). Competitors
have the option of opening or closing any compartments or panels of the vehicle during the
competition rounds.

so does this mean i can leave my front doors closed in my van but open up my back doors since i have speakers in the rear?? im confused about this rule. my van is louder sealed up so thats why im wondering. and if i "have" to have a window open can i just have both windows cracked and the back doors open so u can "clearly" hear the music.

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actually the rules are changing for bass boxing.

one round sealed up
one round driver door open
one round both front doors open

3 runs averaged for your score

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they want to be able to hear the full range. aka my car the subs way over power the highs so moe told me to hook up a speaker for the outside of the car for the sealed up run. terry is correct on the way the rounds work now but its only 30 sec. now.

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uhhh... why such the drastic changes?? and why only 30 sec and not 60 sec....

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oh also when are these new rules going to be posted and enforced?

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they are already posted the 09 rules are on the website.

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oh.... [Frown] man i dunno how well my van would do with doors open [Frown]

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my car gains a full db with the door open. hehe they wanted to give more of a show for the crowd so thats why thet decided to make the doors wide open now.

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quote:
Originally posted by scott s:
my car gains a full db with the door open. hehe they wanted to give more of a show for the crowd so thats why thet decided to make the doors wide open now.

the real question is how does it do with both doors open

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i lose 1 db with both open.

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guess i need to do some testing with doors open. not sure ill do too good with doors open. what do u think the best average this year will be in bassboxing? over a 160 average after all 3 rounds u think?

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for 3 round i say mid 50's. remember tommy isn't competing anymore or so i heard

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i was just wonderin cuz of frankie he gains hella with door open. just not sure what he can do with door sealed.

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I thought the first round was doors shut and 1 window down so the highs can be heard. second round drivers door must be opened third round drivers and passangers door open. That is what I thought it was

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sealed up or 1 window down in qualifying. round 1 of the top 2 is completly sealed

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Right from the 2009 rules.

The Qualifying Round is a 30 second round. Competitors are allowed to use any approved, commercially available music CD.
IASCA Judges using an approved SPL meter will register the average SPL score during that timeframe. The top two contenders
with the highest average SPL score from Round 1 in each Bass Boxing Division will qualify for the following rounds.

QUALIFYING ROUND - The competitor has the option of whether they wish to have the vehicle’s doors open or closed
during qualifying. The competitor has two minutes from the time they enter the competition lane to get ready to compete. The
round lasts 30 seconds during which time the competitor’s highest average SPL score will be recorded. When all qualifying is
complete, only the two competitors with the highest average SPL qualifying score will move on to compete against each other in
Rounds 1, 2, and 3. Rounds 1, 2 and 3 for the top two contenders have certain criteria for each round; please read carefully:

Doors can be open or closed

ROUND 1 - In Round 1, the competitor must compete with all vehicle openings (doors, hoods, trunks, etc.) completely closed,
however, the crowd must be able to hear full range music outside of the vehicle while it is competing. The use of external
speaker pods, or opening windows to let the full range sound escape, is allowed. The competitor’s highest average SPL score
after 30 seconds will be recorded.

Here external speakers or window down

ROUND 2 - Round 2 is the same as Round 1, with one exception. In Round 2, the competitor must open one of the vehicle’s
front doors (driver or passenger). The competitor’s highest average SPL score after 30 seconds will be recorded. The door that
is opened must be opened completely and remain open for the full duration of the 30 second run. Competitors are not allowed to
try opening and closing the door during the competition run, in order to achieve a higher SPL score

Here 1 door must be opened

ROUND 3 - Round 3 is again the same as Rounds 1 and 2, with one exception. In Round 3, both front doors must be open and
remain open for the duration of the SPL run. Competitors are not allowed to try opening and closing the doors during the run in
an effort to increase SPL. The competitor’s highest average SPL score after 30 seconds will be recorded

Here both doors must be open.

To me this says qualifying round door open or windows down. top 2 move on

Round 1 doors shut 1 window can be down to here the music

Round 2 1 door must be open

Round 3 both doors must be open

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Sorry for how long it was

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2009 SBN IASCA NAC Bass Boxing 3rd Place Light Weight class
2008 SBN Bass Race 130.0db -139.9db Champion
2007 Indy Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db Class
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i actually like those rules!

A lot better then the "crowd participation"

before it was just people screaming into the mic or people playing their subs

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I like it better as well i think it would suck to work all year long to be loud, and the audiance to be the reason that you could loose. These rules are way better!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by 2000LaDe:
oh also when are these new rules going to be posted and enforced?

yes they will be posted and inforced.

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Prodigy Mike:
I thought the first round was doors shut and 1 window down so the highs can be heard. second round drivers door must be opened third round drivers and passangers door open. That is what I thought it was

for round 1 the car must be sealed no pressure my exit the car. if you are sealed at the b pillar and have tweeters and mid in the back doors or trunk or hatch you may open the back doors or trunk or hatch to let the full range of music to be heard, if at any point durring the 3 rounds the full round of music can not be heard by the Judges you will receive a 2 db loss for that round.

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That is not my understanding of what i saw. i might have to call and find out before i pay to enter

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2007 Indy Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db Class
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he is right mike. i have talked with terry and moe on that issue.

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Then the rules need to be posted. No were does it say that there will be a 2db penalty and in the rules it says the doors must be shut but the window can be down to alow full range music out. That is in the rules. So does that mean they will change the rules from what is printed.

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2009 SBN IASCA NAC Bass Boxing 3rd Place Light Weight class
2008 SBN Bass Race 130.0db -139.9db Champion
2007 Indy Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db Class
2007 SBN IASCA Bass Boxing Fly Weight Class Champion
2007 SBN Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db class
2003 Sreet A World Finals very last place

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If that is what they are doing. I might not be involved with Bass Boxing anymore. Because that ruins a good thing.External speakers in a daily drive is not a "street" vehicle were I am from. All of the road salt would destroy the speakers.

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2009 SBN IASCA NAC Bass Boxing 3rd Place Light Weight class
2008 SBN Bass Race 130.0db -139.9db Champion
2007 Indy Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db Class
2007 SBN IASCA Bass Boxing Fly Weight Class Champion
2007 SBN Bass Race Champion 130.0db - 139.9db class
2003 Sreet A World Finals very last place

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