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*boominexplorer*
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why does krisa think that because i was put in stock 1 instead of advanced no wall, my score would have been different? would that have tightened up the meter for me? dont know why you keep bringing this point up, its useless in determining my score.

as for the world finals, im just saying that some people CANT afford to take time off due to families, jobs, school and other commitments. i think they should determine a world champ by getting all the local scores from comps around the world and count them. that would be the only fair way to say, im a world champ. cause unless you beat everyone in your class, and it didnt look like there were to many there, you cant call yourself a WORLD champ.

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There aren't enough monosyllabic words to explain it so you'll comprehend it, but I'll try.

Why do I bring it up, because you're the world class chump. You have no concept of SPL competition, what it means to be a good competitor, and what it means to actually do well at an event.

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STK 1 NON-MEMBER 140.30 1
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 140.00 2
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 136.70 3
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 135.60 4

That's "your" results from the one show you did. NON MEMBER. Won by .3.

And yet you think you have what it takes to actually be a World Finalist. Not until you become a member (of any sanction) and make a commitment to actually take advice given, and learn what respect for your fellow competitors is.

I can guarantee that after your attitude and disrespect on these forums (and this isn't just the Internet, the people here DO know each other and interact with each other in real life, all the time) you have effectively black-balled yourself in the lanes. Lord help you at a show if you blow a fuse or need some help, because I'd bet your arrogance around here will make everyone who's read your drivel think twice about offering assistance.

Understand this, meters vary. Air is thinner at different altitudes. Barometric pressure effects the "thickness" of the air. Your score at one event where a mic was say, 3db high, compared with cars where in general people were 2db down, would have likely given you a 141-142. There is absolutely, positively, no telling how you'd have done at a major event based on how you did six months ago.

Why does class matter? You keep claiming you'd have placed top 3 or top 5 if you'd gone. In any class you could MAYBE have been in, you'd have been dead last. Yet you persist with your delusion that your score at your one show makes you world champ material.

All you have is excuses why you couldn't, but no respect at all for those who could, and DID. If they can't afford it, they don't need to be going for a title.

Case in point, I couldn't afford to take the week off from work and drive to Memphis to compete at a title I had a bonafide chance at. Does that mean I deserve to sit back here at home and criticize those that did and say "well if I'd been there I'd have one?" Not only no, but hell no. I have nothing but the utmost respect for my friends and fellow competitors who had the commitment to make the trip and get in the lanes.

You continue to take pot shots at competitors who are true sportsman, who make the sacrifices to go to World Finals, and because not everyone in the world had the balls to say, pay for a membership and get an invite, and go to the event - they aren't true world champions?

You are a piece of work. You truly are the biggest imbecile this forum has ever seen.

Until you have the sack to go to finals, or MORE THAN ONE SHOW EVER, shut up about those who actually did compete.

The more you say, the more an ass you look. It's great for me, because I've known that all along. This is simply icing on the vindication cake for all those people who told me to "lay off the kid, I'm sure he's not that bad." And I did. Glad I gave you just enough rope to hang yourself there bub.

You are a joke. You will always be a joke. You come here and make your assinine remarks because it's the only way you'll get any attention.

I'm done with you. I'm going to remind Wayne again tomorrow of his promise six times now to myself and the other mods to rid the forum of the destructive little trash talking troll that you are.

[ 10-23-2003, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: *Krisa* ]

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how would i have been dead last? my score weas a 146.0, take of 2-3 db's and im still doin pretty good if i went to finals. you keep trying to put me down, but your attemtps are feable. you can keep trying to make excuses about whatever class i was in or this and that, the fact is i got what i got, and compared to scores and world finals, they were pretty good, even with a 3 db drop that MIGHT have occured, so have a nice day [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by *Krisa*:
Why do I bring it up, because you're the world class chump. You have no concept of SPL competition, what it means to be a good competitor, and what it means to actually do well at an event.

quote:
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 140.30 1
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 140.00 2
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 136.70 3
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 135.60 4

That's "your" results from the one show you did. NON MEMBER. Won by .3.

And yet you think you have what it takes to actually be a World Finalist. Not until you become a member (of any sanction) and make a commitment to actually take advice given, and learn what respect for your fellow competitors is.

I can guarantee that after your attitude and disrespect on these forums (and this isn't just the Internet, the people here DO know each other and interact with each other in real life, all the time) you have effectively black-balled yourself in the lanes. Lord help you at a show if you blow a fuse or need some help, because I'd bet your arrogance around here will make everyone who's read your drivel think twice about offering assistance.

Understand this, meters vary. Air is thinner at different altitudes. Barometric pressure effects the "thickness" of the air. Your score at one event where a mic was say, 3db high, compared with cars where in general people were 2db down, would have likely given you a 141-142. There is absolutely, positively, no telling how you'd have done at a major event based on how you did six months ago.

Why does class matter? You keep claiming you'd have placed top 3 or top 5 if you'd gone. In any class you could MAYBE have been in, you'd have been dead last. Yet you persist with your delusion that your score at your one show makes you world champ material.

All you have is excuses why you couldn't, but no respect at all for those who could, and DID.

You continue to take pot shots at competitors who are true sportsman, who make the sacrifices to go to World Finals, and because not everyone in the world had the balls to say, pay for a membership and get an invite, and go to the event - they aren't true world champions?

You are a piece of work. You truly are the biggest ibecile this forum has ever seen.

Until you have the sack to go to finals, or MORE THAN ONE SHOW EVER, shut up about those who actually did compete.

The more you say, the more an ass you look. It's great for me, because I've known that all along. This is simply icing on the vindication cake for all those people who told me to "lay off the kid, I'm sure he's not that bad." And I did. Glad I gave you just enough rope to hang yourself there bub.

You are a joke. You will always be a joke. You come here and make your assinine remarks because it's the only way you'll get any attention.

I'm done with you. I'm going to remind Wayne again tomorrow of his promise six times now to myself and the other mods to rid the forum of the destructive little trash talking troll that you are.

hrm.. that gets a x2

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Boomin- I just looked at all the scores from finals, and there are NO 146's taking a first place. In fact, the LOWEST first place score is a 150.70 I've not seen a 146.3 ever beat a 150.70...

But, your finals material alright.

The stupid ... you've got to admire their consistency.

[ 10-23-2003, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: Audiophyle ]

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and can you even call it a SPL world final when there are no more than 6 cars in any one category? and as for the whole registering thing, most people on the west coast and many other places dont register because they dont see the point of spending $35 for nothing. so my name on the site may say "non-member" but anytime you want i can scan the trophy and you can see all the info yourself, hater.

you may know clsoe this post due to you being shut down [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by boominexplorer:
how would i have been dead last? my score weas a 146.0, take of 2-3 db's and im still doin pretty good if i went to finals. you keep trying to put me down, but your attemtps are feable. you can keep trying to make excuses about whatever class i was in or this and that, the fact is i got what i got, and compared to scores and world finals, they were pretty good, even with a 3 db drop that MIGHT have occured, so have a nice day [Big Grin]

There is absolutely, positively, no telling how you'd have done at a major event based on how you did six months ago.

you can predict the future? you must be a rich man [Razz] [Wink] [Big Grin]

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well im sure on the same type of mic, both being audio control's, my score would have dropped over 3 db's.

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quote:
Originally posted by boominexplorer:
well im sure on the same type of mic, both being audio control's, my score would have dropped over 3 db's.

you cannot predict voltage, temperature..weather..

all of which affects spl, not saying that the mic can be off and broken as well

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The only person getting shut down around here is you Mr. Guttenbeil.

You were in stock 1 at Extreme Autofest in Sonoma, in May yes? Those results show a 140. Nobody, in any of those results that are listed on IASCAs site, hit a 146. Please show me what show you hit that 146 at?

Look I'm sorry you can't afford the $30 membership, and don't have the resources, or the sack, to go to finals, but that does not in any way shape or form give you the right to judge and criticize those that do.

Those who can, do. Those who can't are simply keyboard commandos.

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quote:
Originally posted by boominexplorer:
well im sure on the same type of mic, both being audio control's, my score would have dropped over 3 db's.

AudioControls, unless they are new out of the box, or recently calibrated, are NOT consistent meter to meter. I have two friends with AudioControls. They vary by 5db. One's about 2 "low", one's about 2.5 "high" off a freshly-calibrated or just out of the box AC.

This is why, as well as atmospheric conditions such as altitude, temperature, relative humidity, are why you cannot say with any degree of certainty, or education, that a score you got in California on a sunny May day would be the same in Tennessee's mountains in winter.

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Oh god, do I have to take one of my 12's out and hand you your ass to show you what real SPL is like. STFU, get a clue, get a job and then buy a membership and compete with the best if you can. If you think you can hang BRING IT!!

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genius, it was the July 27th show, so go check again. as for not affording $30, i could but please tell me the point? when you have school and other bils to pay, you cant afford to go half way across the country on your own dime to come back with just a trophy. and as for the comment about voltage, if anything, mine would have been more olid since when i competed i was using basically a stock electrical system/

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STK 1 NON-MEMBER 146.00 1
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 142.10 2
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 140.00 3
STK 1 NON-MEMBER 136.10 4


Found the right show, silly me thought you went in May. July makes an even bigger temp difference, thanks for proving the point.

As for the money thing again, you can't afford a $30 membership and a trip across country to world finals, so you belittle those who can?

Now I see the root of it all - simple jealousy.

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quote:
Originally posted by -=ALL4SPL=-:
Oh god, do I have to take one of my 12's out and hand you your ass to show you what real SPL is like. STFU, get a clue, get a job and then buy a membership and compete with the best if you can. If you think you can hang BRING IT!!

its real easy to say that when you have events all around. there were 3 events in the northern part of CA all year, and from those stats, in stock 1 i killed everyone by 5+ db's, and there was no adv no wall division. so whats your point. how bout you make a trip out to sonoma next year and show me?

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Boomin, since he works for IASCA, he may just do it in a rental car.

And you're NOT IN STOCK 1. You're at best, and that's if ALL4 classes you there (as he's head IDBL judge for major events LIKE FINALS), in ADV No Wall.

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its not about jelousy, its just the fact that it wasnt a real "world" championship. from the scores, it seemed like a beefy version of a local show. none of the numbers really wowed me like "damn, this was where the worlds best were" take steve meade for example. he was consistantly clsoe to 150 in stock 3, but he didnt go to finals. he owuld done very well had he went, but didnt.

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well in sonoma here was no adv nw division, so i used stock 1 since the only thing keeping me from there was about 3 inches of MDF [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by boominexplorer:
he owuld done very well had he went, but didnt.

That says it all. He didn't. If he were a member, and wanted to go, then he could MAYBE be a world champion. HE chose not to, so HE is not.

It still doesn't give you the right to be a prick to those who could.

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well how bout bringing the finals out west for a change, then see how many east coasters make the long trip? i bet you it would be a different story then

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