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Here it is i have an 88 dakota regular cab. I have cut throught from the truck box to the cab an have the sub box ported through. I have 4, 10 inch soundstreams run off of a rockford fosgate punch 100.2 ( 50x2 ) backed by a 1 farad cap. I can easily hit 140 db, but of course want more. My question is how can i get more without changing subs, amps, box, or the system in general. i aready have planes for 2 deep cycle batteries and maybe another cap. any info would be great.
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Well if your box is right the only thing I can say is buy a bigger amp. Don't get me wrong, the 100.2 is a decent amp, but if you want more out of your system you need more power. The batteries will also help you.
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Change the amp. The extra batteries won't do much on a 100.2 since it doesn't draw all that much. If you want to stay in the same power class, look at finding a Power 50.2 from last year (I know where a brand new chrome one is..) since it is rated at the same power but will put out near 600 watts to those 4 woofers.
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i always compete in spl because the front stage is all screwed up cause i took out a voicecoil on one of my mids an the system isnt totally complete. as for the amp this is last years model that i bought at a demo pricebut a crome one now thats interesting the only problem is im in canada an assume for the most part u r from U.S.
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Well I agree. Other then a redesigned box or something of that nature you need more power. Upgraded batterie(s) or alternater I doubt will do a thing. That amp dont take alot of current. If you dont have upgraded factory power and ground I would do that and make sure that the amp has the largest power and ground the amp can take. But other then that you need more power. Since you dont want to make major changes...
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Posts: 8036 | From: Huron,Oh | Registered: May 1999
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well ive spent the day thinking ........well i tried thinking ..but it hurts ..anyway thought about adding 2 more subs an up the power to 300 watts . also think that if i get it monoed down to 2 ohms i could take out the front window that would be fun EH!
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If you start thinking about getting a new box. Perhaps an ABC box. I'm almost finished my ABC and I cant wait to try it out, I'll let you know how it works out in a few days.
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Posts: 78 | From: Calgary, Alberta | Registered: Jun 1999
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I have never heard that before Lincoln..... Where did you get that from? I don't think that is right...... but maybe I am full of dung and really don't know anything at all.
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Posts: 2554 | From: Flower Mound, TX USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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Some of the people on this forum, including me, have done some testing with caps and SPL. They have often proven to hurt SPL scores. There is a theory floating around that if you had a ton of farads that it would pay off though. My car loses .5 to 1 db with a cap. My friends have lost from .2 to 2.5 db depending.
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well over the weekend i rewired my amp to a 2 ohm load an it has given me tons of extra bass but increased the speed in which the amp heats up so im going to put in a cooling fan an thought that behind the amp was a good spothowever to push or pull that is the question? also i cant see how a cap would make u lose dbsthe were made to store up power an then release it faster than the batt. or alt. can?
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A cap is not always a good thing for an spl system. if you do not have enough caps for the amount of wattage your system is producing in less then a second you can drain your caps. Then the caps will be nothing but a strain on you system. They will try to power all the way back up, sucking juice from the alt before it even reaches the amps. The worst thing you can do in an spl system is to have to many unneccasary connection points.
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Posts: 169 | From: Duluth, GA | Registered: May 1999
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I either read or was told that alma's last system had a ton of caps and they actually lost a little. They took them out and gained some. Not sure if its true but that is what I remember.
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Posts: 403 | From: Spokane Wa USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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Well about the caps in alma's system that Jbsmooth talked about. They have been in there BUT not hooked up since 97. They disconnected them and seen NO change in spl. Then they took them out but because of the fact they took up space and all of a sudden it changed the design of the bronco and they gained that much air space they lost a few db so the put them back in to JUST take up space.
In high spl system from what I have seen and heard CAPS do little to help. They are good for transients like in SQ cars but other then that the are not all that....
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Posts: 8036 | From: Huron,Oh | Registered: May 1999
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Well, about your fan question. The way i would treat it is like i would fix a fan onto a computer CPU. You want the fan to pull the air away from it, so affix the fan on the top half, or the front. Depends on how you look at it. Anyway. If your amp is just like mounted in the open, just have it set up so it pulls it away from it. If its in a box or rack, have one that pulls it away from it, then have one on the box/rack to draw the air out of the enclosure. But if you did have a rack, then im sure it would be already setup like that. Someone smack me if im full of it. Im pretty sure this is how to do it.
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