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No nothing is mounted yet. Tim Dunham has been helping me design the no wall box. Box is getting close but no where near done. I'm working on ordering a couple of new amp's.....something of the 3-4k RMS each at 2 ohm and strapable. In need of more battery and more double ought.
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Won't go very good if Tim is designing the box. He hasn't even figured out how RCAs work yet.
LMAO.
You're in good hands. Should be peggin mid 50s with ease. I'm jealous. I wish I had someone like Tim in my area to show me the ropes when I was getting started. Just make sure that if you don't understand something you man up and say that. Pretending to know something you don't will only hurt you in the long run.
And quit slackin with the pics. There better be a welder involved.
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I only have to add 3 more 4x8 sheet of 3/4 birtch... and NO the box isn't even close to being done. Who would have ever though a 3 layer box would take so long to build. Try assambling something like this by your self,usaly at 3 AM.
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Just my opinion.....PLEASE take it with a grain of salt. Looks good except for the width and depth. Width needs to be B-pillar to B-pillar. Depth is going to dip note lower than it should be. But it appears you are allready prepared for that as the back wall looks adjustable. Or you can just build forward but then loose battery space.
GREAT choice of wood.
Face should be boltede TO the box not IN the box. This will allow a tighter woofer configuration (more port) and allow you to switch sub sizes by changing the face.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but....that foam or adhesive used on the sides and roof puts you in SS 1-2...not NW.
And the welder should be welding metal. Not wood. Hint hint.
Looks 10 times better than my first NW build!!!!
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The foam was in the van when I bought the van....I didn't put it there,and haven't goten a chance to remove it.
Yes the back wall is movable,and is double stack sheet,w/2x4 frame.
Makeing the face bolt to the front wasn't cost effictive......You could only get 1 cut per sheet and the rest of the sheet would be 2 small to have used for the othere pannel's. So in an effort to save $150 I chose to mount the way I did. As for width,That is as wide as box can be, 1 inch shy of door jam to jam. And I am already haveing to cut the last out side sheet's for clearance to fit bewteen the wheel well and the gas filler,so I guess I couldn't have made any wider.
As for welding....I don't think there are any pic's of the steel center suport. I haven't finshed makeing the bracket's to bolt the box to the van. There sheer strap's,required if the van was rear ended,NO bolt would hold the box from moveing just being bolted down,hence the sheer strap,and it would also make it D.O.T legal.
I am also going to build a frame to hold my bat's,at over 100lbs each you don't want them moveing if the van ever were to rollover. That's where the welder come's in.
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What batts do you have that are 100lbs each?
What size are the sheets of wood you are using? It's 11 ply BB right?
How tall is the box? How about wide?
I just thought that since the box fits between the wheel wells that you had a lot more room between the box and the b pillar than one inch. Looks like the box is about 6 inches from the B pillar from this angle.
Like I said, take with a grain of salt. Just trying to help.
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I have burped 4000 rms on those woofers. They are very very nice for the money.
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quote: Won't go very good if Tim is designing the box. He hasn't even figured out how RCAs work yet.
LMAO.
You know what they say; those that can't do teach...
You're in good hands. Should be peggin mid 50s with ease. I'm jealous. I wish I had someone like Tim in my area to show me the ropes when I was getting started. Just make sure that if you don't understand something you man up and say that. Pretending to know something you don't will only hurt you in the long run.
And quit slackin with the pics. There better be a welder involved.
Hopefully that enclosure is as wide as he could get it, I have yet to see it...
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Battery's are group 8-?? I can't rember the rest of the number the batt's are at work. They are used in many HEAVY truck's. These were removed for GrandRapid's City bus's....there are 2 per bus. They can also be found in a lot of the LARGER front end loader's and buldozer's. 1 of these battery's will do what 3 to 4 NEW group 31 screw top battery's can and never break a sweat, they also have lower internal restiance. They are also made to withstand MAJOR vibration with out damage. On the down side they are VERY heavy and take up a lot of space. These mesure like 24x13x10....if I rember right.
The van step's in at the bottom of the b-pillar to 1 3/4 wider than inside e wheel well about 12 inch's from the floor. So to be wider I would have had to remove trim panel that cover the door opening as well as remove the seat belt's and cut into the b-pill inside the van.
All mesurment's are out side....The box is 53 inch's wide 48 inche's deep and 24.5 inch's tall. Port is 19.75 tall(inside hight) and 17 inch's wide.
Inside the box is 48 inch's wide and 44 inch's deep and 19.75 inch's tall.
My figure's after displacment is 22.75 cubic feet. ........And the face IS removeable,once my wife calm's down about the price of the wood(I'm going to start burning receit's as I leave the store),I'll make a new face to allow for a littl more port and closer spaceing of the sub's.
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If so I haven't read about it....and I don't see that ANY where in the rule's. They are 12 volt,but why would that matter if you can run 16 volt's. Heck,if you can run dual 8v's in series how would this battery be out of the rule's ????????????????...???????
If it's cause it's not for a car,what about the gp 31 blue top...it's a boat battery....and the case the Ohio gen's I have seen can be found on most ANY Freight Line or IH, same case and VERY close to same out put....but I'm sure the Ohio Gen is still stronger.So why not use a battery match to the Alt out put abilty.....
Any truth about said rule and WHERE can it be found...link or exact place to find rule.
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6-8g The use of aftermarket interconnects and power cabling is permitted. 6-8h Temporary structural reinforcements to the vehicle are prohibited during competition. This includes attaching straps, suction cups, sand bags, etc. to the vehicle. However, pressing on the doors, windows, trunk and / or laying on the hood, roof, etc. is acceptable providing no other applicable rules are violated. Super Street Division Installation Restrictions 6-9a Speaker walls are permitted but not required (with the exception of the Super Street 1-2 NW class - please see the special note below). 6-9b Podiums are acceptable. 6-9c Center consoles that displace less than 2 cubic feet of air space are acceptable. (Both commercially available and custom or homemade consoles are acceptable.)6-9d There are no limits to the number of "stiffening" capacitors that may be used.
--------6-9e There are no limits to the number or type of << batteries>> that may be used.--------
6-9f << Battery>> boxes located underneath the vehicle are acceptable provided they are located behind the plane that is defined in rule 6-2. 6-9g The OEM alternator may be replaced or "beefed up". A maximum of 2 alternators may be installed in the vehicle. 6-9h Temporary structural reinforcements to the vehicle are prohibited during competition. This includes attaching straps, suction cups, sand bags, etc. to the vehicle. However, pressing on the doors, windows, trunk and / or laying on the hood, roof, etc. is acceptable providing no other applicable rules are violated. 6-9i A Special Note on the Super Street 1-2 No Wall Class:
The rules for the Super Street 1-2 No Wall Class are identical to all of the other classes in the Super Street division with the following exceptions
This is a direct copy and past of the current rule's pertaining to SS....
I don't have ANY cut throuh and EVERY thing is below the window line.....
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awesome. makes sense to me. Maybe it was for a street or stock class....i know it's a rule in one of the organizations for some classes...just couldn't remember which. I didn't think so, but I just wanted some clarification, which is why it was posed as a question. Hell yeah! now you just need to find a Shrink-ray like in Hunny I Shrunk the Kids...then you could fit more of them
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Just though I'd post some more pic's .....still a long way to go ....must finsh ....getting burned out with 1 AM every night..... need sleep.... Oh wait NO I don't.
I might have been able to get a little more,but the cost of wood prevented it. spliting the sheet's was the most cost effictive way.
I can not pull the seat belt's....I still have to drive this to every show,and just about every day to work(got to pay the bill's). At this point in time I can't affrod a trailer qween. This has caused me to have to do thing's a little less than ideal. I will pull the seat's when I am at a show,and I have the box as far foward as I can and still drive the van(VERY cramped and no leg room).
Just keep in mind this is my first real SPL build,and there's a lot I don't have,and can't afford right now. I can rebuild the box later down the road, is a build ever done ?
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