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I believe there are too many classes in dB Drag Racing. Each year, I speak with all of our turn-key event promoters, international representatives, and others regarding this issue. Each year, we all come to the conclusion that we have too many classes. This year, I believe it is more important than ever to focus on class reductions for the following reasons...
The scores in many classes are very similar.
Some classes do not have enough competitors to justify the existence of multiple classes.
Many classes are not fully populated at multipoint events. This reduces the excitement of competition in these classes.
Officiating simplicity.
Cost - Multipoint events require that all classes be offered. Promoters must supply trophies for each class. Many times, trophies are wasted because the class brackets are not full.
I believe we should reduce the classes as follows...
Street Stock Street A Street B Street C Street Max Super Street 1-2 Super Street 3+ Extreme
This graph shows the participation breakdown for 2008. If you have a recommended class reduction, please post it here.
If you look at the scores in the divisions that are combined you will see that the scores are very close from class to class.
With a reduction in classes, we could also go back to offering 1-8 trophies in each class at the WF.
[ 01-12-2009, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Wayne Harris ]
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Well the loudest ext vehicles are with 1 or 2 subs. So ext seems like 1 class would work. I would "like" to see more SS classes but what has to be done has to be done.
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if theres only one ss then im done differnce in ss 1-2 and ss 5+ is about 4db they is noway in hell that gap can get any closer so theres no point in even carring enuff to change my set up or buy a new truck to compete with money isnt there with these classes this way most will not return in 09
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and no streetmax wow this was a great class to watch
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I like my break down of classes. Street Stock Street A Street B Street Max Super Street NW Super Street 1-3 Super street 4+ Extreme this is a copy of an email I sent Wayne on my suggestions the focus on Bass Race and Street Stock classes.
Wayne,
I have thought about street stock class and talked to a few manufactures and have came up with what I thought might be a good street stock class
1. Must play music for at least 20 seconds of the run
It can still be peak hold but you make it so the meter needs to read a minimum of 120db for 20 seconds of the run or the score will be a zero. This will force the competitors to play more then just a single note during their run.
2. Make the subwoofer just a stamped steel basket with no larger then a 2.5” vc.
This will make it easy for any manufacture world wide to have a product line that can be used and not limited to a line just in the USA.
3. I think the power rating will work without a list.
That being said, if there is an amp in question the competitors can bring it to our attention and it can be tested. I can test it if you do not have the time. I have access to Arc audio’s shop and equipment.
4. Since a competitor needs to pre-register for finals the competitors must list their products and must use those exact products. Then a week before finals we can list all of the products being used, so if there is a question about their validity it can be addressed before finals. For any world record in those classes we can check the power output of the amp and it needs to be within specs to prove that there has been no tampering with the original product. This can be done with a simple chart of amps, volts for the amps being used at world finals.
Bass Race should add the Dice roll after two ties. This has added huge excitement to my shows and seems to be accepted well on the forum. Also I think the doors and windows should be allowed open during the run for the 129.9 – 149.9 classes and be totally sealed for the 50+ class.
i think when you combine more classes like last year
more people will quit playing db drag
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Those are some killer ideas doug. But, I don't want to get sidetracked on the actual rules in this thread. We will address these ideas in a different thread.
Thanks for the creative input!
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I cant figure out why the trend isnt noticed that the more classes you cut the less there are in the lanes the next year.
If you stick with what you mention you might as well plan for 7 street classes next year and nothing else. The few competitors in the lower SS arent very likely to want to stick around and try to beat the guys already established.
Instead of talking to manufactures and retailers about what can be done, why not talk to the seasoned competitors that were there year after year and walked away and see what drove them away and fix that instead of adding to the problem.
I cant help but say this is another nail in the coffin.
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looks to me wayne from your own graph that street max and ss 1-2 was a strong class why kill it with these big changes i cant compete with ss 5+ and i think im close to the top of the class in ss 1-2 what does that mean for the guys under me that are even less louder in the class they will all just quit .
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mini street a.b.c. for new guys to motived them (after a year they have to go to street or higher)and let them play at world finales
-street A -street B -street MAX -street C / NO WALL 14 or 16 volts -super street 1-3 -super street 4+ -extrem 1-2 -extrem 3+
and why do we have to give up some classes while the organization has to pay the same price for a single,double or triple pointer
when this pice goes down maybe there will be more events
more event are more people and more people is more money
let db drag live dont let it die
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about stc walled allowed would let the sm guys a place to still compete in
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Ok, I see that waynes post was edited....was street max added back I'm guessing ?
I also agree that only 1 SS class with 3 Street class's is just plain WRONG.
Combine Street A and Street B
Add SS 1-3 and SS 4+
There are a lot of people that wont be happy no matter how ya roll but that seems like it would be the best course for this.
ALSO...thinking abou this at work today I relized how many poeple WON'T be buying a Db Drag member ship this year. If the top 8 in ALL SS class's are the only people that can get invites and get tropheys at finals....welll lets see thats a whole lot less people that have a reason to compete. Why spend all year chaseing points and buying a member ship knowing that you have no chance of a invite to finals. That would hurt the sport more than any thing.
I see a lot less money in WAYNES pocket for memberships and shows this year.
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