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hes askin if we will be using MP3 instead of CD's in the lanes.....(MP3 off a storage device like Ipod)
my answer is, i dont know but it would be nice. Im slowly moving away from having ANY cd's whatsoever in my car. Just like 8 track, LP's, and tapes were phased out of my life one at a time, i think the common CD is heading that way as well. Why carry all those CD's i have my entire collection on my ipod and about 50 gigs left to spare
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Won't be able to use it for multi-point events
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Ok - so just a wild question - not that I am promoting a cheat by any manner - but curious how a judge would catch this scenario.
Get the cd - rip it to MP3's - store them on the ipod. Go to the event - put the cd in the head unit - but instead - play the tracks off the ipod - no skipping potential that way.
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just brun really high quality CD's, and they shouldnt really ever skip unless you have a ****ty head unit . 192kbps and up should almost never skip on a CD unless ur hitting amazing numbers. Just my view on this. But MP3 players are handy beacuse you never have to fiddle through CD's to find what you want.
quote:Originally posted by xpl: Ok - so just a wild question - not that I am promoting a cheat by any manner - but curious how a judge would catch this scenario.
Get the cd - rip it to MP3's - store them on the ipod. Go to the event - put the cd in the head unit - but instead - play the tracks off the ipod - no skipping potential that way.
Hmmmmmm????????
Depending on the unit it would say your source....
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yes - but when does a judge actually "watch" your head unit during competition? Also, on the alpine units (like mine) the ipod says "CD Changer". That doesnt help.
As for the #'s not being higher because of bitrate - I've never seen any published information backing up that statement. And I do know that I have several MP3's that hit my system just as loudly as the dB Drag CD does. Of course, I am only hitting in the 140's now but still, I can do it the same with either now.
So my question still stands. How would a judge truly know if you are using the physical CD or not. And does it matter if you use the physical CD or just the tracks from that CD?
I realize at this time, this is more of a discussion for "Rules" rather than here. If someone needs to move it I will understand. I am very curious though.
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There has been an on-going debate in regard to audio quality in compressed formats, such as *.rm, *.ram, *.mp3, *.mpeg1-4, *.ogg, etc. The boiled down version of the debate:
quote:Even at 192 - 320+ Kbps, it's still less than the 1100+ kbps that an uncompressed *.wav file would have on a CD.
I don't know what the lower bit-rate translates into for dB scores. It may be noticable, it may not. However, I don't know if it could be any worse than the early CDs that were recorded at what appear to be low levels. I have some CDs that I can turn up to 22 on my stock HU and then other CDs that I can't turn up beyond 18 to get the same (apparent - not metered) sound level.
My ears are shot after years of use & abuse (stage audio). But, even I can normally notice a difference between a 44.4 kbps *.mp3 and a 128+ kbps *.mp3. Granted, you save a bunch on file size, but is the compression so maxed out that the song sounds like garbage? That being said, I don't think that anyone would compete with less than 128 - 192.
If compressed audio players are allowed, what format would need to be used? *.mp3 is ubiquitos, but is it the best? RealOne will argue - NO. Ogg-Vorbis will flat out smack you upside the head and slam a *.ogg file in yer ear. But, the majority of users are *.mp3 users. So, the format is pretty much decided: MP3. Then it comes down to compression rate: 128, 192, 300+? With HDD becoming MP3 devices (.5 - 60 GB flavors), file size is not a severe issue. However, is it fair to have one competitor using a 320 kbps song and another using a 128 kbps song? Is there a noticable difference? On my iRiver mp3 player, the 320 kbps songs sound LOUDER than the 128s, but then again, it may just be at a particular frequency that my damaged ears can hear.
Then the question can be asked: Why have a HU? If you have the mp3 player, why not just hook it up as your source unit? Especially with the 30 - 60 GB videoPods - plunk those in and watch a movie or a TV show on the trip and then put it in yer pocket & jam out with the head-phones / ear-buds.
quote:Originally posted by vented: cant you put a wav on an ipod also. You can rip a cd in anyformat on itunes so i assume you could just rip it as wav and put it on the ipod.
That'd probably work too. Having only a 128 MB mp3 player, *.wav are not a big option for me (yippe, 3 - 4 songs). But, for a 2+ GB iPod, *.wav files could be a valid option.
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