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We say the problem for all this discussions is the USA guys think the Pandas and Marbellas have an advantage of 3 db vs. the CRx and the best scores in Europe is for this advantage and not for the good work of Europe guys! For to look if the scores of European Guys are good for the work i suggest to take one street C Usa Top competitor and to put the sensor in the end of the port and tell us the score and power, same thing for a Top street c European competitor and compared the scores!if the scores are near the same the advantage is for the car but if the scores are best for the European guys i think is only for the good work and not for the car!what do you think guys?
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there is definately a big difference between a panda and a crx in terms of capability, the Panda can have a solid 3db advantage over the honda. However, that is only when you put the loudest crx score vs. the loudest panda score.
Both American and Euro street competitors put alot of hard work into their cars so you cant say the advantage is only in the hard work.
I say, quit bickering over these two cars, if you want props for loudest street car, that should be on a Continental level because this is "street" and our cars vary from europe to usa to brazill. No need to fight over it, all street guys work hard at their build's
quote:Originally posted by Powerfromthegodsfromitaly: We say the problem for all this discussions is the USA guys think the Pandas and Marbellas have an advantage of 3 db vs. the CRx and the best scores in Europe is for this advantage and not for the good work of Europe guys! For to look if the scores of European Guys are good for the work i suggest to take one street C Usa Top competitor and to put the sensor in the end of the port and tell us the score and power, same thing for a Top street c European competitor and compared the scores!if the scores are near the same the advantage is for the car but if the scores are best for the European guys i think is only for the good work and not for the car!what do you think guys?
The advantage is quite obvious and for you to imply that Europeans just outwork the Americans and your explanation of if we just worked harder we would be able to match your scores in street class is a bit insulting.
I have much respect for the European competitors, I have no doubt you guys work very hard on your cars and have countless hours of testing to achieve the results you display year after year. But keep in mind many of us do the same things you are doing, and in no way are we lazy, or not working hard enough.
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Is not an isult for Us guys but you need to change design box!in many years all your street cars have the same design style box!I say many competitors have tested the crx style box, but the score is low!i think if you change box design you can go up with score!you have a lot of liters in crx!
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quote:Originally posted by Powerfromthegodsfromitaly: Is not an isult for Us guys but you need to change design box!in many years all your street cars have the same design style box!I say many competitors have tested the crx style box, but the score is low!i think if you change box design you can go up with score!you have a lot of liters in crx!
I agree to a certain extent, Team Michael Hughes showed a huge number in A this year and they found a very effecient design and it payed off. My point is that score is the best we have seen from a crx with the current street a rules and it is still 3 db behind the WR holder.
I have experimented with quite a few diffrent designs in my car and the smaller enclosures always work best in my application.
I have done everything from 1.2 to 6 cubic feet in my car and the larger enclosures always drive the frequency down and leave you with less usuable power when peaking lower. The largest I can build is 3.5 cubes and still get my frequency to peak at 60-61hz. I shrink the boxes down to around 2 cubic feet and can play at 63hz and be withing .5db of my best box.
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It is simple! Like we in europe can buy your musle cars! You can buy a panda in europe and send it to usa! You give 800euros for panda, and 1000euros for shiping, and you have a panda! But you wont get to 160 in a cuple of years! if ever!
quote:Originally posted by Kurslus: It is simple! Like we in europe can buy your musle cars! You can buy a panda in europe and send it to usa! You give 800euros for panda, and 1000euros for shiping, and you have a panda! But you wont get to 160 in a cuple of years! if ever!
Team SD started just this year with one of your prized tuna cans that you call a car and managed to post a 159.6 in street b with just one season of competing with it. 1.4 db of the World Record in his first year.
The problem with importing a panda is, the United States (the only country that matters by the way)doesn't deem it fit to drive on our roads due to it being an unsafe death trap of an automobile.
So you can keep that almighty over glorified golf cart because it just is not good enough for us Americans to drive.
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quote:Originally posted by The Repo Man: Team SD started just this year with one of your prized tuna cans that you call a car and managed to post a ...
Oh, don't say those things, the little car is so beautiful and aerodynamic ... hahaha.
quote:Originally posted by Kurslus: It is simple! Like we in europe can buy your musle cars! You can buy a panda in europe and send it to usa! You give 800euros for panda, and 1000euros for shiping, and you have a panda! But you wont get to 160 in a cuple of years! if ever!
Team SD started just this year with one of your prized tuna cans that you call a car and managed to post a 159.6 in street b with just one season of competing with it. 1.4 db of the World Record in his first year.
The only strange is, that the WR car was also build with just one season
PS: trailer the panda....
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quote:Originally posted by Kurslus: It is simple! Like we in europe can buy your musle cars! You can buy a panda in europe and send it to usa! You give 800euros for panda, and 1000euros for shiping, and you have a panda! But you wont get to 160 in a cuple of years! if ever!
its not that simple for the US the db drag rules states they much have tags title and insurance on the vehicle that we use here n the us u cant get any of those u have to have say a place in MEX. or CAN to tag and title it then bring it to the US but u CANNOT bring it in the states and register it in the states and be legal and i dont know how many people have connections so they can have someone put in in there name and let u use the car. not alot.
so its not that simple.
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but i dont care i have my own goal and i still believe i can get a crx as loud everyone tells me not going to happen but im starting to run out of time and money to keep doing this. but with the crx and suv i have both won titles with i have built thousands of boxes and stuff. many never before seen and still workn on it. but as far as the crx i have tried 3 dif dashes, 2 sets of doors 4 sets of door panels, 2 sets of dif rear interior panels, 2 dif carpet, 4 sets of seats and dif head rests in the seats, i have build many boxes and lots of hours testing, ive bought part cars just for the dif parts to test. ive tested tint vs not tinted vs and paint ext. ive got lots of time n cars. i still havnt givn up i got a new box for 2010 street a who knows maybe i might get there this year
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quote:Originally posted by Kurslus: It is simple! Like we in europe can buy your musle cars! You can buy a panda in europe and send it to usa! You give 800euros for panda, and 1000euros for shiping, and you have a panda! But you wont get to 160 in a cuple of years! if ever!
its not that simple for the US the db drag rules states they much have tags title and insurance on the vehicle that we use here n the us u cant get any of those u have to have say a place in MEX. or CAN to tag and title it then bring it to the US but u CANNOT bring it in the states and register it in the states and be legal and i dont know how many people have connections so they can have someone put in in there name and let u use the car. not alot.
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it use to or something like that to go to finals ill have to re read maybe that part is gone
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quote:Originally posted by Powerfromthegodsfromitaly: We say the problem for all this discussions is the USA guys think the Pandas and Marbellas have an advantage of 3 db vs. the CRx and the best scores in Europe is for this advantage and not for the good work of Europe guys! For to look if the scores of European Guys are good for the work i suggest to take one street C Usa Top competitor and to put the sensor in the end of the port and tell us the score and power, same thing for a Top street c European competitor and compared the scores!if the scores are near the same the advantage is for the car but if the scores are best for the European guys i think is only for the good work and not for the car!what do you think guys?
Listen superstar, why don't you get a crx and make it as loud as a panda yourself, THEN you can talk about how easy it is...
Do what I did at finals this year, park your panda beside Dennis' crx and compare the 2 cars front to back, make a checklist on which car has the advantage starting with the shape of the car, the size, the windshield, the dash etc....all the way back. You will see what I saw, the Crx does not have any advantage at all, not even 1!
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In 2005 the difference in street A was 0.8db!now 3db!car don't changed!
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quote:Originally posted by Powerfromthegodsfromitaly: We say the problem for all this discussions is the USA guys think the Pandas and Marbellas have an advantage of 3 db vs. the CRx and the best scores in Europe is for this advantage and not for the good work of Europe guys! For to look if the scores of European Guys are good for the work i suggest to take one street C Usa Top competitor and to put the sensor in the end of the port and tell us the score and power, same thing for a Top street c European competitor and compared the scores!if the scores are near the same the advantage is for the car but if the scores are best for the European guys i think is only for the good work and not for the car!what do you think guys?
Listen superstar, why don't you get a crx and make it as loud as a panda yourself, THEN you can talk about how easy it is...
Do what I did at finals this year, park your panda beside Dennis' crx and compare the 2 cars front to back, make a checklist on which car has the advantage starting with the shape of the car, the size, the windshield, the dash etc....all the way back. You will see what I saw, the Crx does not have any advantage at all, not even 1!
CRX is not allowed here in street without backseat i thought many times about building a str a but we can't use crx like you guys or we need to import one. so you had the advantage for years so we found a car as good as a CRX and now the complaining begin we didn't complain that much we search and build and we have the advantage now so i don't see the need of all this bull****
NO HARD FEELINGS just me 2 cents
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