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I have been doing Street Max for a couple years now and hove a few ideas to try and help the class to grow a little.
1. Expand the rule on subs to allow up to: four 18" total surface area of 1017.36 four 15" total surface area of 706.5 six 12" total surface area of 678.24 eight 10" total surface area of 628 I know it seems like the four 18s has a huge advantage but few vehicles have used them because of a lack of sufficient space. There are also many who argue that there is not enough power available in a Street Max system to effectively use four 18"s.
2. Expand the battery rules to allow: one multi-cell battery up to 800" two normal batteries up to a combined 1300"(allows for two street a style batteries) This would lower cost on the battery side and allow for the fazing out of the multi-cell batteries. It should still remain competitive across the board.
I don't think it would be fair to add the proposed 50hz frequency cap on Street Max either, very few, if any, run that low.
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i agree no frequency cap on street max. Any walled or superstreet class should have no frequency cap at this point imo.
I think street max rules are fine the way they are personally. However Im not a SM competitor.
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quote:Originally posted by Wagonized: i agree no frequency cap on street max. Any walled or superstreet class should have no frequency cap at this point imo.
I think street max rules are fine the way they are personally. However Im not a SM competitor.
If the class was fine the way it is people would be in it, there needs to be some kind of tweaks to the class for it to grow. I think the battery idea will really help, for years there has been an argument over the multi-cells in the Street Max class. My idea allows for a handicap to those who can't afford the multi-cell but doesn't punish those who chose to use them.
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I thought of that after I posted the original, same rule as no wall.
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quote:Originally posted by Team Innovative Shaun: I have been doing Street Max for a couple years now and hove a few ideas to try and help the class to grow a little.
1. Expand the rule on subs to allow up to: four 18" total surface area of 1017.36 four 15" total surface area of 706.5 six 12" total surface area of 678.24 eight 10" total surface area of 628 I know it seems like the four 18s has a huge advantage but few vehicles have used them because of a lack of sufficient space. There are also many who argue that there is not enough power available in a Street Max system to effectively use four 18"s.
2. Expand the battery rules to allow: one multi-cell battery up to 800" two normal batteries up to a combined 1300"(allows for two street a style batteries) This would lower cost on the battery side and allow for the fazing out of the multi-cell batteries. It should still remain competitive across the board.
I don't think it would be fair to add the proposed 50hz frequency cap on Street Max either, very few, if any, run that low.
looks very good Shaun, however, i feel multi cells should be illegal
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And my plan allows for them to be phased out instead of just an abrupt removal.
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quote:Originally posted by Sonofthor: In my opinion street max should be for showcars that build up to b pillar.
So i would say: Box not higher than headrests! (no fully wall) 2 normal Batts Subs as it is now and only 1 or 2 amps
Hey Street guy keep out of this....hehehe J/K
I think the sub rule sounds good. Also the bat idea is a good call. Frq.... and cap.... ????? Don't realy think thats fare.
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Shaun, I really like your idea for the subs and batteries. I think the conductor limit should stay the same though if the sub ammount is changed.
Personally on the 50hz ruling, I think it is a pretty cool idea but can see how it could piss off lots of people in Europe. Maybe a 55 or 60hz cut off would be better. A vehicle playing lower is more likely to break glass and draw audiences in my opinion as well as with, maybe it would help get some more spectators at shows.
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I don't know about you but I can't afford to replace windshields just to please spectators. Any real Street Max vehicle should be playing over 60hz, to be honest I think the cap of 50hz in any street class is a ridiculous idea. I only suggested my way in the other post as a better alternative, I still disagree with it.
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I don't think I could afford it either, but say if you are breaking windows, you don't need to every single burp or event. I also like you're idea of the pysclone way broken up in 10hz increments. Then again I also like the rules how they are now, but defiantly would not be complaining if some things were done to narrow the gap between Europe and North American vehicles as this is one of the farthest spread classes.
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Europe is Europe. America is America. we know what the vehicles are capable of, what about enclosure design? does anyone notice the difference in the enclosures we build here compared to there? I do, and im not trying to be smart but we all have different ideas of how our sound wave's will travel through the box, load up, and exit the vent.
Doesnt steve cook have the loudest SS to date? In an astro!! to me, its all in the planning of the build.
Back to the multicell rule though, I think only standard 12v battery's comprised of 6 x 2v cells should be allowed as they are easily available to everyone and run a fraction of the price.
Only is SS and Extreme are "custom" type battery's allowed. This is "street" max, and should should have the same rules as street C, just with the option of a wall enclosure.
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i really dont think the "price" of a multicell battery is so bad...streetmax is a "street" class and perhaps only standard cell batterys should be allowed rather than custom batterys i really dont have complaints about this class, it seems to have a good following.
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I need to point out that I have a multicell and personally don't think that the rule needs to be changed. In the past others have claimed it was one of the reasons they wouldn't do street max, so in the interest of growing the class maybe it is a necessary evil. I also went the way I did with the combo battery rule so the multicells could be phased out and people with them could still use them for the upcoming season.
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