Are leather seats (front) and a leather backseat allowed? I mean orig. Seats covered with leather Are other headrests (like from other fiats etc..) allowed. (they donīt look like the orig. with the holes in it)
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I would say headrests must be from panda or marbella not from other fiat. And leater seats i would say allowed.
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The key words are "OEM replacement"Check the rules
Leather seats are allowed ofcourse...
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quote:Originally posted by the_noga: I would say headrests must be from panda or marbella not from other fiat. And leater seats i would say allowed.
Correct ! But seats must be 100% like the original, so dont get creative and modify the seat - it would suck to go to finals, and then couldnt compete as you modified your seats...
quote:Originally posted by murilo@soundigital.com.br: If you can put different seats (like sport seats) you can change the headrest...
Yes, you can put in a sportseat - but then the headrest must be for that seat. You can not mix and match as you like.
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quote:Originally posted by dB Don: Also one layer of leather, not multi layered leather.
Yes, and also no other modifications is allowed. You cant add or take out filling, change the dimensions or other crazy stuff we have seen competitors try to do earlier ! You can only change the cloth with leather, that are meant to be used for carseats - so no crazy thick leather, that are not normally found on carseats.
In general you can say, if your not sure if what you are doing are legal, its probaly not.. And if you do something to your seats, that you think is creative or pushing the rules - you better bring original seats.
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quote:Originally posted by dB Don: Also one layer of leather, not multi layered leather.
Yes, and also no other modifications is allowed. You cant add or take out filling, change the dimensions or other crazy stuff we have seen competitors try to do earlier ! You can only change the cloth with leather, that are meant to be used for carseats - so no crazy thick leather, that are not normally found on carseats.
In general you can say, if your not sure if what you are doing are legal, its probaly not.. And if you do something to your seats, that you think is creative or pushing the rules - you better bring original seats.
Thanks, that is what i want to hear!
My seats are orig. but i saw to many crazy things in the past....
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quote:Originally posted by dB Don: Also one layer of leather, not multi layered leather.
Yes, and also no other modifications is allowed. You cant add or take out filling, change the dimensions or other crazy stuff we have seen competitors try to do earlier ! You can only change the cloth with leather, that are meant to be used for carseats - so no crazy thick leather, that are not normally found on carseats.
In general you can say, if your not sure if what you are doing are legal, its probaly not.. And if you do something to your seats, that you think is creative or pushing the rules - you better bring original seats.
Thanks, that is what i want to hear!
My seats are orig. but i saw to many crazy things in the past....
So that is why you started speculating on some stuff yourself to gain some....
Hopefully your enthusiasm and your products should be more than enough to make you stay loud.
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quote:Originally posted by dB Don: Also one layer of leather, not multi layered leather.
Yes, and also no other modifications is allowed. You cant add or take out filling, change the dimensions or other crazy stuff we have seen competitors try to do earlier ! You can only change the cloth with leather, that are meant to be used for carseats - so no crazy thick leather, that are not normally found on carseats.
In general you can say, if your not sure if what you are doing are legal, its probaly not.. And if you do something to your seats, that you think is creative or pushing the rules - you better bring original seats.
Thanks, that is what i want to hear!
My seats are orig. but i saw to many crazy things in the past....
So that is why you started speculating on some stuff yourself to gain some....
Hopefully your enthusiasm and your products should be more than enough to make you stay loud.
No its not speculating I know that will be a good gain and @ last WF it was allowed!
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What if you put a seat that has different floor mountings than the original designed.Let's say a Marbella seat in a Panda car or the other way around? You have to modify the sliding rails of the car to swap the seats...
One clarification for this issue would be intersting....
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quote:Originally posted by thanosdbfan: What if you put a seat that has different floor mountings than the original designed.Let's say a Marbella seat in a Panda car or the other way around? You have to modify the sliding rails of the car to swap the seats...
One clarification for this issue would be intersting....
When you put older seats in a newer panda it fits like original. On the floor are the places visiual where the seat rails have to be. You can dril the 4 holes for the screws and puts the seats. I see no different between old panda seats and marbella seats. they are the same. It is the same with the backseat.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but the Panda-Marbella seat rails are not identical...
Fiat has the inside seat rail welded on the side of the gear lever funnel while Seat Marbella has the seat rails welded to the floor...So if you want to put a Marbella seat in a Panda you have to modify the sliding rails in order to make the seats fully functional.
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quote:Originally posted by thanosdbfan: Correct me if i'm wrong but the Panda-Marbella seat rails are not identical...
Fiat has the inside seat rail welded on the side of the gear lever funnel while Seat Marbella has the seat rails welded to the floor...So if you want to put a Marbella seat in a Panda you have to modify the sliding rails in order to make the seats fully functional.
When you have a Fiat panda before 1986 it have the same mounting way as the marbella. The Marbella is exactly the same as an panda till 1986. After 1986 the Panda have get little changes in the dashboard and seats. Also the springs at the rear. Further is everything the same.
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Again I will say keep it stock and original parts(oem for that model/make/year)from that type of car. swaping out parts for .2 here and .2 there is not worth risking a DQ.
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quote:Originally posted by dB Don: Again I will say keep it stock and original parts(oem for that model/make/year)from that type of car. swaping out parts for .2 here and .2 there is not worth risking a DQ.
Don, I have heard of CRXs that have replaced the entire rear section plastics in order to remove the "rear flaps" from an SI because the HF didn't have them. (HX? ..whatever)
I've also heard of people replacing panels on the doors of a CRX because of the way some of them have mountings for seatbelts.
These have always been deemed legal because they were available in the CRX at some point in time.. I don't see how this is any different
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Jordy is correct. It have been allowed forever, to replace part form other car (of the same make and model, but different "version" SI, HF/HX etc.)
So as long as you use a panda seat in a panda, you should be good to go.
But if these changes should have been allowed in the first place, is another story.. I dont think it should be legal, and have suggested for years, that Street cars must have 100% stock interiour !!
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quote:Originally posted by thanosdbfan: Correct me if i'm wrong but the Panda-Marbella seat rails are not identical...
Fiat has the inside seat rail welded on the side of the gear lever funnel while Seat Marbella has the seat rails welded to the floor...So if you want to put a Marbella seat in a Panda you have to modify the sliding rails in order to make the seats fully functional.
Correct. The older seats dont have the same rails as the new ones. Same with the backseat - there are 2 different seats, and even the cloth seat are made with 2 different ways to attach to the car. This is the exact reason (as well as the part-swapping in the CRX) that i think Street should have 100% stock interior.
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