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I'm wondering why we can't relocate the battery from the stock location in street classes??? I feel it's crazy having to run 20+ runs of power and ground wires through the firewall the length of the car. Posts: 174 | From: Midwest | Registered: Feb 2001
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moving the battery to the cargo section would make the car non-stock, but crazy guys have to use many runs of power cable in their cars because they are crazy=) Every stock car which have a single small battery, a single amplifier and a subwoofer of 12" size or 2 10" should have an opportunity to compete in street A (there are many daily drivers and first-time competitors) with a single 12"). If you'll have more modifications such as moving (or adding) the battery, that means that you have more experience to compete the higher class. OEM locaion + cable through the lenght of the car = power limit. BUT you can use an additional battery in Street C. Multiple runs is just a way to get more power without going to the higher class. If you need more power, you can go to the higher class.
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Then dont go through the firewall, go underneath
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quote:Originally posted by yahoo: moving the battery to the cargo section would make the car non-stock, but crazy guys have to use many runs of power cable in their cars because they are crazy=) Every stock car which have a single small battery, a single amplifier and a subwoofer of 12" size or 2 10" should have an opportunity to compete in street A (there are many daily drivers and first-time competitors) with a single 12"). If you'll have more modifications such as moving (or adding) the battery, that means that you have more experience to compete the higher class. OEM locaion + cable through the lenght of the car = power limit. BUT you can use an additional battery in Street C. Multiple runs is just a way to get more power without going to the higher class. If you need more power, you can go to the higher class.
I plan on running street a. I want to distribute the most power I can get to the amp. I feel we should be able to move the battery to the cargo area. 99% of all finals competitors are not daily drivers in street class. If they are I'm pretty sure they don't ride around with their finals system in it. Also they are not 1st time competitors either, they are generally national competitors. I know the rules are set and just wondering who would be opposed to having the ability to move the battery to the cargo location in Street classes? That would save me lots of money not having to run 10 rolls of power and grounds through the firewall. I also wouldn't have to cut a gut my firewall up.
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quote:Originally posted by Mr Bump: Then dont go through the firewall, go underneath
True. You still have to come through the car somewhere though. With the battery relocated to the rear you don't have to cut any holes in the car.
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That's the power limit. The initial idea of Street supposed to be the class for new competitors, not national champions;) You can also buy the car with the battery under the backseat like some BMW's or Audi's. Of course no street competitor will oppose the ability to move battery to cargo section, but power cable companies and their distributors have to earn their living=).
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quote:Originally posted by Mr Bump: Then dont go through the firewall, go underneath
True. You still have to come through the car somewhere though. With the battery relocated to the rear you don't have to cut any holes in the car.
First of all if you move your battery to the back you still have to have a couple of wires running back to the engine bay to get the power from the alt and as well as power all your stock electronics. second like yahoo said if you want a battery in the back move classes. as every one has said the whole idea is to limit your power, if you allowed street a to have batteries in a none OEM location then there is no reason to have certain other classes like street c because their rules would be almost the same.
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What is the difference between: 1) Having only 1 battery total in the front of the car with 40 runs of +/- to the back.
2) Having only 1 battery total in the back of the car near the amp.
Option 1 costs a lot more money than Option 2. Option 2 makes a lot more sense than option 1.
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the street c car from peter had the 2 batts in the front don't think he would put his second batt there if it was better to place it in the back
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so with the batt in the back the score would be lower because of less room for big amps
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Everyone should just buy a car with the battery in the back standard like I did with my HHR, solves everything
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99% of all finals competitors are not daily drivers in street class. If they are I'm pretty sure they don't ride around with their finals system in it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
I guess that that makes my CRX the 1%, because I have my system in my car and my car is a daily driver, 100 miles a day roundtrip. But to be honest I do take out the sub enclosure, on weekdays, only to help out on fuel economy. But yes, my "Finals" system stays in my CRX, except for the sub box......
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99% of all finals competitors are not daily drivers in street class. If they are I'm pretty sure they don't ride around with their finals system in it. [/QB]
I guess that that makes my CRX the 1%, because I have my system in my car and my car is a daily driver, 100 miles a day roundtrip. But to be honest I do take out the sub enclosure, on weekdays, only to help out on fuel economy. But yes, my "Finals" system stays in my CRX, except for the sub box...... [/QB][/QUOTE]
We daily drive ours also. That wasn't the point of this post though.
Since you have competed in the Street A class and it is 1 battery total. How would you feel if you didn't have to run all the power and ground to the rear of the car? You could just relocate the 1 battery to the rear.
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i thought the reason behind keeping the battery in the factory location was to keep to the "stock as possible" idea?
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quote:Originally posted by Citrate75: i thought the reason behind keeping the battery in the factory location was to keep to the "stock as possible" idea?
Since day 1 the battery had to fit in the stock battery tray, now the battery can be anywhere "under the hood", as long as no other rules are broken.
So I agree, that the battery should stay under the hood, so for cars that are fortunate enough to have their batteries in the trunk or under the seat, they have a good thing, and for everyone else, we are just the unfortunate ones.
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quote:Originally posted by KickerEcx: [QUOTE]How would you feel if you didn't have to run all the power and ground to the rear of the car? You could just relocate the 1 battery to the rear.
no offense, I will feel great, then I can have even more runs, than just the 16 runs I now have.
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