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I have a question I need answered. I know that you are limited to 1 1,000 watt amplifier in street stock A, or 2 mono amps strapped. Can each of the mono block amps be 1,000 watts or can they only add up to total 1,000 watts together?
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Anybody? The reason I'm asking is I have 2 RF T10001bd amps I want to strap together on 2 12's for street stock A.
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That would be a "Cheater"amp. The amps and subs can't be any thing comp grade. I'd say any thing rockford has in the "T" line is comp grade.
Every time I have spoke to Wayne street stock A was up to 2,000 watts. Dosn't matter if it's RMS or peak. They go by the HIGHEST rateing given to the amp even if it's peak power. This would also mean NO COMP GRADE amps even if there rated small.
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2 mono amps up to a max of 1000w rms... street stock b up to 2000w...
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quote:Originally posted by PeteS: That would be a "Cheater" amp. The amps and subs can't be any thing comp grade. I'd say any thing rockford has in the "T" line is comp grade.
Every time I have spoke to Wayne street stock A was up to 2,000 watts. Dosn't matter if it's RMS or peak. They go by the HIGHEST rating given to the amp even if it's peak power. This would also mean NO COMP GRADE amps even if there rated small.
This is one of the issues with the street stock classes. If you look at the max ratings on some amps...there is honestly no way the amp can reach that (The IFL rating)under normal use. I think as members we need to look at how to make this class work for the upcoming season.
-------------------- Chuck Whitney Jr. '95 VW Jetta III 2008: World Finals:Street Stock A - 4th place Regional 2009: ??
if you read the rulebook and see the legal-amp thread i would say that 2x500w rms amps strapped or 1x1000w rms amp is legal in Street Stock A, but some say 2x1000w rms is legal also....
This is confusing.. Does anyone really know what the rules are?
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quote:Originally posted by AudioXtremes: Pete, why do you always try and start crap about these classes?
The amp in question is on the list. Take a read before you try and impose your will on others.
As per 2008 rules your 2 RF amps are good for ST stock a. But who knows what will happen in 09?
Well lemme call and get the STATED RMS power off some birth sheets. I don't recall EVER seeing ANY Rockford T or Power line EVER doing stated power. Most of the time it's at LEAST a few hundred watts under what it WILL do.
When people are useing amps that STATE IN BLACK AND WHITE that they will do more then rated I'd call that a cheater amp. Now why are some companys not allowed to have there amps used....well because they are proven to have a track record of giveing more then stated power. These amps were not allowed, strange that amps that DO state power is OVER the limit are allowed to run......and I'm being accused of starting crap. WTF !!!!!
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Does this mean that EVERY 1 that ran the T 1000 and T2000 at finals should have been DQ'd ? The amp STATES 1,486 watts on the 1K and 2,851 on the 2K.
This line of amps should be BANNED or use the list to rule on what amps can be used.
When a amp is suspected of under rateing thats 1 thing but when the company prints it that is a whole diffrent story.
I wonder if people that used these amps would be willing to post pictures of THERE birth sheets. After a few searchs it seems that these amps have been stated as high as 1,600+ on the box in a CEA rated format.
Maybe clamped power is the ONLY way that this class will ever work.
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Well, as long as they only used one amp they should be ok...
Street Stock A, Max 2000w rms.. Street Stock B, Max 4000w rms..
Or so i heard... In europe they used two 1000w rms amps in Stock A at WF. And they were not even listed at all..
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Street Stock A - 2000WRMS Max (Any number of amps) Street Stock B - 4000WRMS Max (Any number of amps)
-------------------- Tor Aamodt
*Head Judge at World finals 2004, 2006 and 2007 *Judge at World finals 2002 - 2003 *Norwegian dB Drag Racing Association. (NdBDRA) *Certified multi point judge.
If you look back at the origins of this class...some of the ideals were:
- Find a way to get the RETAILER involved again in Db Drag...
- Have a LOWER COST solution to Street Class.
- Find a way to bring more competitors to the sport.
This class has allowed me to sell better equipment to my customers. I am able to educate the customer in the difference between a MAX power rated amp and 'real world' amp. It allows me to help them grow into the sport...make subtle changes to thier system for improvement. I have turned them off of the internet and back into my store where they have a person to ask questions and spend thier hard earned dollar with. Its like the old NASCAR saying " Win on Sunday...sell on Monday...."
The truly sad part of all this is the drama we are having is being watched by FUTURE competitors. I'm sure we all have been contacted by someone who is interested in the class and is wondering what is going on.
This class is open to the world...there is going to be product that is common in one region and not the next. And yes CEA 2006 rated product WILL in most cases exceed its rated power. Just have to find a happy compromise.
-------------------- Chuck Whitney Jr. '95 VW Jetta III 2008: World Finals:Street Stock A - 4th place Regional 2009: ??
The Street Stock classes are intended for normal, after market auto sound systems. The equipment permitted in these classes is restricted to the "consumer-grade" components that are sold everyday at auto sound retail establishments. Veteran contestants, competition teams, and "hardcore" competitors are encouraged to compete in one of our other divisions.
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^^^ yes they are encouraged...not prohibited nor banned from those classes.
I don't understand your issues with the class honestly. Check my stats...last season was my first full season as a competitor..before that I did 2 shows SVR and a local show. I had been a spectator for years before that. This is my hobby.
I personally don't have an issue with any of the above group in the class. Yes they are more experienced...but if im a newbie and I see the same gear in their car that I can get from my local Best Buy...I'm gonna ask them questions on how to improve my score.
I'm done with it.
-------------------- Chuck Whitney Jr. '95 VW Jetta III 2008: World Finals:Street Stock A - 4th place Regional 2009: ??
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I dont see what the big deal is with the Fosgate T series amps the birth sheet and listed rating on the amp its self is just a marketing gimick to get the average consumer to buy the product the same one who would buy a Sony Explode or what ever because printed in huge print on the box it says 1200 watts granted that figure is max power but what dose the average consumer care about
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ok i'm curious if the Fusion P2000.1 amps are leagal for the ssb class, on the site they are rated for 1000 rms @ 1 ohm i currently have 2 to an RD heavy weight 15 would that be legal
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