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clkwrkorg36
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i really doubt any of the guys that have retired will return to the non bandpass class. these guys were at the top spl wise, and i don't see them wanting to run the intermediate class. why not a 4 amp extreme class and a 8 amp extreme class. each class as many subs as you want.

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Either way...I am new in extreme this year and am not even done building my new vehicle but I plan on winning the National Championship at 08' finals in the lower of the 2 extreme classes.

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2003 World Finals S.S. 5+ 8th
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2004 MECA World Finals MR5 4th
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2007 Ext 1 Not done in time
2008 Ext 1 2nd Place Regional and National Finals 174.1 dB
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quote:

Either way...I am new in extreme this year and am not even done building my new vehicle but I plan on winning the National Championship at 08' finals in the lower of the 2 extreme classes.
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Now thats what I'm talking about.
Great attitude, I truly respect that.

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Team Power Master
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Team Second Skin
Team RazorLite
4 time dB drag World Finalist. 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008
awsome guy at car audio stuff.

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I got some real inspiration today after a phone call from a loud guy on the east coast...

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2003 World Finals S.S. 5+ 8th
2004 World Finals S.M. 3-4 5th
2004 MECA World Finals M5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals MR5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals DB5 2nd
2005 World Finals S.M. 3-4 8th
2007 Ext 1 Not done in time
2008 Ext 1 2nd Place Regional and National Finals 174.1 dB
2009 Ext 1 Sky's the limit! 175+

Visit my Myspace page for finals vids and info on upcoming events in Ohio.
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I will be likely using one sub and hopefully be louder than any other 1 sub vehicle in either of the 2 new extreme classes. Just need to work hard and do it right.

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2003 World Finals S.S. 5+ 8th
2004 World Finals S.M. 3-4 5th
2004 MECA World Finals M5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals MR5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals DB5 2nd
2005 World Finals S.M. 3-4 8th
2007 Ext 1 Not done in time
2008 Ext 1 2nd Place Regional and National Finals 174.1 dB
2009 Ext 1 Sky's the limit! 175+

Visit my Myspace page for finals vids and info on upcoming events in Ohio.
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but I dont remember calling you. lol j.k.

I love competing too much to ever get discouraged or quit. I wish more people had your attitude

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Ed Lester,
Team T3 Audio
Team Maxxsonics
Team Power Master
Team Hooker Audio
Team Second Skin
Team RazorLite
4 time dB drag World Finalist. 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008
awsome guy at car audio stuff.

Technically astute


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I used to have that attitude but I just dont have the money to have that attitude anymore.

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Lol...another loud guy like you

I will be spending the same amount of money as I was going to before the class change. Still 1 sub and 2 amps. Sorry to hear it affects you the way it does Toby. You coming out to the show in Centerville on 2/2?

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2003 World Finals S.S. 5+ 8th
2004 World Finals S.M. 3-4 5th
2004 MECA World Finals M5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals MR5 4th
2004 MECA World Finals DB5 2nd
2005 World Finals S.M. 3-4 8th
2007 Ext 1 Not done in time
2008 Ext 1 2nd Place Regional and National Finals 174.1 dB
2009 Ext 1 Sky's the limit! 175+

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quote:
Originally posted by TechSys:
Exactly where will a freestyle competitor move up to? It would seem that any class above it should be a move up. If freestyle allows unlimited batteries, unlimited caps, and 18volts, and can run during test, Street A/B/C/Street Max will actually be a move down for them.
I may be reading that wrong though. But if I was a newbie (basically I still am), and I went to freestyle and won, I would just give up right there and never compete again due to having to jump so many classes to "move up", or rip my system completely out and downgrade it to fit in those other classes.
Can you actually see a person that has never competed trying to stand ground in Super Street classes after winning one freestyle event? I can't

you honestly think a newbie would have the above and not have the intention of running in any of the bigger class's?? what a daft lad you are?

its for newbies, there will be lots of cars in the class that don't nescessarily fit other classes! so if your very loud you will have to move up, if not and you are playing "be louder than my mates", you can still run and not fall foul of rules like window height, which your average install in 75% of european cars break due to having boxes higher than 8" (stupid euro car designers!) or dual batterys - which a lot of guys have with two tens and a biggish amp, but can't play in street a but wanna compete

tell you what you setup for playing in the newbies class with unlimited batteries, unlimited caps, and 18volts, and can run during test and then we can all laugh at you after your first show! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John:


"... You are wrong. Freestyle is for NEW competitors that want to "test" their system... Its like a run what you have class with no rules..."

"Test"?
What test?
You mean if a new commer with a 1500 watt amp and two subs goes to an event, competes in Freestyle and wins he then retires in the same day?

Or, does the "test" mean he now has to go buy a $1000 battery, $2000-$3000 amp, $800 sub, and 10 strands of cable so he can maybe get with in 10-15db of everyone else in Street A?
that test?

Kinda my thoughts exactly John. While Freestyle is a good start in the right direction its needs a little refinement.

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We have used "free style" in norway for 2 years or so now, under a different name, "Mini Street Rookie" and "Mini Street Try it"
Here you can see the results of it:
http://www.termpro.com/asp/members2.asp?Who=13&MemberID=8982&Page=2

We never had any problems with pro-cars in that class, cause it wasnt a official finals class, and if you won it you would be moved up in another class.

You can see the results from norwegians competitions here:
http://www.dbdragracing.no/resultater.php

I dont see much problems with the new classes even though i compete in Street Max 1-2, which is 1-4 now..

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Its pointless to add you input the whip has been cracked and they know more about whats good for the sport than us anyway.

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I agree Navi. I was really going to do some Db drag this year, but, I'm staying in bass race.. At least until is screws up as bad. Then I'll just move to another organization, or quit completely.

And Adam, right now I don't need anything extra... yet. Laugh all you want, but I'll be doing all right in Bass race 140-149.9 this season.

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what defines a normal ported wall?

You can put sub and port on the driver side, still use the center console and still do a 174+ i bet

Or what happens if someone uses a sealed box just sitting in the back of the vehicle? or fires woofers to the driver side and the front of the box just so happens to create a pocket on the passenger side?

OMG if I was in extreme I'd be all over these grey areas, just to exploit them.

This is the worst thing db drag can do, is try to determine what defines a bandpass and a normal ported wall

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sorry guys that i am that loud (180.5db 1 sub)... buy the way last year i run 1 sub not because i can't get louder is just the game . 1 sub vs 8subs or more ! thats the fany part , smal class beat the big class thats the fany!!! now i be pushing every one that came in my way! i be with 6 10"s or 4 12"s ,or 2 18"s, we see whats work best i will make the loudes can be do now!!!from 4 amps to 8 amps is big diference and extra cone area!!uuuuuuuu

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169 on Extreme 2 2003 DB Drag World Finals
...2006 world recorde extreme 1 -177,8 db and deathmath champion
...179.3db extreme 1 sub wr holder
...179.7db extreme 1 sub wr holder
...180.5db extreme 1 FIRST DB DRAG 180SSS
...2007 world CUP HOLDER 179.7DBS 1 SUB WOOFER and deathmath champion
...2008 180.9db ex 2 world champion and deathmath 173db
...2008 181.8db nspl WR
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alan we all know you are the loudest ever...and you are the best thing in the universe.

But what does that do for you as far as a business standpoint? Its a waste of money, what is that gonna do for you in 15/20 years...your claim to fame might be a 180, but who else besides the 500 people that care about SPL will remember you in 20 years?

...exactly

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lowes and ace hardware!!.. [Laugh]

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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
alan we all know you are the loudest ever...and you are the best thing in the universe.

But what does that do for you as far as a business standpoint? Its a waste of money, what is that gonna do for you in 15/20 years...your claim to fame might be a 180, but who else besides the 500 people that care about SPL will remember you in 20 years?

...exactly

and those that do remember what will their opinion of you be........

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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
alan we all know you are the loudest ever...and you are the best thing in the universe.

But what does that do for you as far as a business standpoint? Its a waste of money, what is that gonna do for you in 15/20 years...your claim to fame might be a 180, but who else besides the 500 people that care about SPL will remember you in 20 years?

...exactly

ho you are? i am part the history off db drag! i have win more then eny one here and have make lots money from this i don't waste money, i do what i love to do ! my name will not die like your! i be doing this for 14 years ... and i belive that i will be doin'g for fill more years! arrogante guy you are!!!!

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172.3 with ONE SUB on 2002 DB Drag World Finals
169 on Extreme 2 2003 DB Drag World Finals
...2006 world recorde extreme 1 -177,8 db and deathmath champion
...179.3db extreme 1 sub wr holder
...179.7db extreme 1 sub wr holder
...180.5db extreme 1 FIRST DB DRAG 180SSS
...2007 world CUP HOLDER 179.7DBS 1 SUB WOOFER and deathmath champion
...2008 180.9db ex 2 world champion and deathmath 173db
...2008 181.8db nspl WR
...life beging at 180db

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JUSTIN/ALAN cage match at finals!!
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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
alan we all know you ar