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I think think there should be a couple changes for the street classes. I think it should go a little something like this: Street A - 1 battery and only 2 runs of zero gauge wire. One pos. and one neg. - 1 subwoofer amplifier max - same rules on subs Street B - 1 battery and only 4 runs of zero gauge wire. Two pos., two neg. - 2 subwoofer amplifiers max - same rules on subs Street C - 2 batteries with a maximum of 4 pos. and 4 negative runs of zero gauge. - 4 subwoofer amplifiers max - same rules on subs
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I like the runs of wire rule. That is something my brother and I thought up while talking about street/stock classes. LOL
Some will say that is hard to police, due to 2/0 and 3/0 possibley being used. However you could have your judges carry a piece of 1/0 or know the size of wire and have a tape measure to varify this. Real easy if you ask me.
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Considering there isnt one actual size of 0 gauge, its a range of sizes, it wont be as easy as that.
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quote:Originally posted by MoparBass28: I like the runs of wire rule. That is something my brother and I thought up while talking about street/stock classes. LOL
Some will say that is hard to police, due to 2/0 and 3/0 possibley being used. However you could have your judges carry a piece of 1/0 or know the size of wire and have a tape measure to varify this. Real easy if you ask me.
will not work
I have used 1/0, 2/0 and 4/0 wire. Most of the 2/0 welding wire is the same size as the 1/0 wire and in some cases the welding is smaller on the outside due to it haveing a much much thinner jacket.
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Specify a maximum diameter of the copper wire. Doesn't matter if it is 1/0, 2/0, 4/0 etc, as long as it fits within that diameter. Make it a minimum of strands (like 30) to keep out solid buss bars. Also, make a minimum length of like 13-15 feet. This will make the super batteries and amps not a factor anymore and MORE IMPORTANTLY, make most of the street cars a lot more SAFE!!!!
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That's not going to happen. You think a judge has time to measure dia, check for length and how many strands on each car ?
The best way to keep it fare for everyone is the cut the amount of amps the panda's use. Or do what I said back in 2003, fuses
quote:Originally posted by Shedluv: Specify a maximum diameter of the copper wire. Doesn't matter if it is 1/0, 2/0, 4/0 etc, as long as it fits within that diameter. Make it a minimum of strands (like 30) to keep out solid buss bars. Also, make a minimum length of like 13-15 feet. This will make the super batteries and amps not a factor anymore and MORE IMPORTANTLY, make most of the street cars a lot more SAFE!!!!
How bout a freq cap for street based classes. I mean seriously. How many daily rides do any of you know that tune to 80hz ? Street classes should be a more daily type setup.
Fuses would work and number of runs of 1/0 would work. 1 run of + and - to back. Noteably it would have to be 1/0 and shown that it is so. Not hard to police when the competetor has a reciept from purchase of wire.
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ive always thaught theres should be a lower cap on the hz too , i mean theres no need for a 80 hz limit in street class, who wants to play high frequencyies, for anything besides a comp? street should be more bassrace ish, loud daily stereos..... it will give more people a chance, i mean helll when i started and up to now ive always played right around 40 hz burps , its more fun..... and still the only ones that were always louder then me where like 60,70 hz tuned vans...
in the end i say a 50 to maybe 60 hz cap for street class even tho id still say lower.....
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The point of this topic is not about a "weak game". It is about steps that could be taken to make it more cost and user friendly for newcomers.
MSD is nice, but I am sure there are a few of them that would like to be at a finals and not just a state held one either.
The fuse rateing would be nice, but not set for each vehicle type as stated, even tho we know how Panda's and Crx's are compared to larger vehicles.
A frequency cap would work rather well, since the TL can display if the freq is higher then what is allowed. Even if a high tuned BP is used, they would still have to use a lower freq to stay below this cap.
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i agree with yuli, the only ppl that should be limited with fuses, wire runs and everything else everyone thats louder than me!! sorry dude your not gonna be the big dog in canada for long, your gonna be limited to 1 run of 4ga and a eveready civic battery with a 20A fuse
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The wire idea is good. I think number of run's should matter....how many hundreds of feet of wire should a car have. The number of wire run's seem's a little more than fair for a street car. Realy how many installer's install 1 12inch sub, 1 amp and + & - run of 2/0 wire ? seem's a little over board but hay let's say it's a big amp.
As far as the size....why not just give a MAX outside for the wire(with inselution).....say like being able to slip a 1/2 or 9/16 wrench over the wire as installed in car. Wrench's are a preset size and there realy isn't a varance from brand a to brand X.....this would be SSSSOOOOO simpel. So who cares what size the wire say's it is....no diffrent than the way amp's are rated, there's OVER or UNDER.
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quote:Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX - Percy: That's not going to happen. You think a judge has time to measure dia, check for length and how many strands on each car ?
The best way to keep it fare for everyone is the cut the amount of amps the panda's use. Or do what I said back in 2003, fuses
quote:Originally posted by Shedluv: Specify a maximum diameter of the copper wire. Doesn't matter if it is 1/0, 2/0, 4/0 etc, as long as it fits within that diameter. Make it a minimum of strands (like 30) to keep out solid buss bars. Also, make a minimum length of like 13-15 feet. This will make the super batteries and amps not a factor anymore and MORE IMPORTANTLY, make most of the street cars a lot more SAFE!!!!
It would only have to be checked if protested. A simple jig could be used to check the diameter. This is sort of the thing where competitors police themselves. It would only need to be checked on every car at finals. If the amps are in the back of a car, then the minimum length shouldn't be an issue.
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I know we will just get rid of one note wonders and all just do Bassrace.
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I also liked another idea I heard somebody say on here and I've actually thought about it before I heard it, but its a retail dollar limit in the street classes. It would be nice to have a shot at winning finals only spending 2 grand or so. What do you think, street A, $2000 limit on equipment including battery,but not wire.
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