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Isnt this why Mini-Street was created. BTW its not working.
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But mini street is not around any more because it added classes and made shows longer. Some promoters still run the classes but it is not recognized by DBDRA as far as I know.
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If Street ended up as a non finals class, I think it would go the way of mini street and hardly anybody would compete in it anyway. Just my thoughts though.
I really think the answer is in amp limits. Keep the subwoofer structure but limit all street classes to 1 amp only and 4 conductors. and 1 battery.
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Oh, and then maybe turn street C into a Street Max 3-4 No wall
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quote:Originally posted by lmanosteel875: Oh, and then maybe turn street C into a Street Max 3-4 No wall
How would this be any different to Street C now?
Apart from making people use more subs?
To the average Panda/CRX owner, its no difference.
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It wouldnt be much different, the reason is because Street C would then be limited to 1 amp and 1 battery. So the creation of a Street Max 3-4 would allows this bigger street systems to still compete.
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quote:Originally posted by AudioAnonymous: what do some people not understand about limiting amps? You will have to buy 10kW+ amps then so its still expensive.
Sometimes, I think people are just not getting the point........
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quote:Originally posted by 200plus: Wanna-B-Basshead - We wil still need a Finals for the people in the classes that Manufacturers fully support, that way they can still get their advertising out of it.
it sounds like your saying that street class is sh*t... (what it sounds like to me...)
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quote:Originally posted by 200plus: Wanna-B-Basshead - We wil still need a Finals for the people in the classes that Manufacturers fully support, that way they can still get their advertising out of it.
it sounds like your saying that street class is sh*t... (what it sounds like to me...)
I'm not saying that at all, I'm just saying that we (street competitors) in general don't get the manufacturer support that the Super Stree and Extreme competitors get.
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OK here is another idea. This would make a jump to Street Max and higher classes or Bass Race relitivley easy, kind of levels the field a little, and makes it more exciting for the spectators.
We leave the rules for Street alone as far as equipment and modifications go, but we change the way the measurement is taken. The score could be an average over 30 seconds of music instead of a peak at one frequency. Now everyone would have to play for 30 seconds, and come on what is 30 seconds if this is a car you drive on a regular basis. Spectators get to hear music instead of burps. It differs enough from bass race because it is get as loud as you can, not get this loud and if you can't then only get that loud. The jump to Street Max and higher classes looks eaiser to a kid doing mid 130's on music than it does to a kid doing 135.7 on a three second burp. It is just less for them to comprehend. The jump to Bass Race is just learning some control. It also makes it look like anyone can do it, with any equipment.
We would have to find a way to limit music, so no one could embedd sine waves or tones in their tracks, but other than that I can't think of any other draw backs, but I'm sure some of you are about to point them out.
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Problem is its not dB drag then, it would be more like dB rally lol.
Having said that it would make having HUGE amps a bit pointless..... well atleast until sub technology caught up.
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most street cars are under 65, the ones i have talked to....
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what about brackets? like bass race, except for street classes? except maybe 140.00-144.9999, 149.9999-150, 150- up? and lower brackets too.????
just an idea, because then people doing 50's plus will be competing against someone, instead of a noob doing 30's or maybe 40's if hes lucky. I would think that most street guys that are semi serious are in the middle of 140-150 area though thats why two brakcets in there???? Or a intro street class that goes up to 145 only and then you're in normal street. But that would add a class which no one seems to want to do. When I first got into this it was me against all my friends and we saw whos stereo was loudest, now its a couple guys who do 50 plus and the rest of the 45 and lower guys, and there aren't as many poeple. I don't have all the answers, but I know that fart boxes aren't the answer to recruiting new members.
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At smaller events, newcomers will get whooped, end of.
At big events, with fuller brakcets run MS.
Doesnt have to be the same mic, could be on a second set-up so it doesnt make the show any longer.
Having a dB cap in any class means people will choose a class and perfect it, just like Bass Race.
MS, where the numbers allow good competition is ideal.
Would be even better if it was free or mega cheap.
I know alot of noobs dont like paying because they get two burps and get knocked out. We could make qualifying two burps with an average taken to decide brackets, give them more for their money, so to speak.
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Sorry but your idea isn't in the right direction, but thanks for the effort. As I've been saying for years they need to change the rules and make equipment changes. It's to expensive to compete in street as it is. Less equipment the less cost to get into a hobby that is already to expensive with absolutely no return except for fun. And the scores are getting out of control too. But Wayne has already made it clear that he doesn't care about street class.
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It seems as though all your solutions are trying to force competitors that can't afford a tow vehicle and trailer to move to a class that requires such.
Street Class is NOT for entry level competitors dude, wake up and smell the roses!
Bass Race is the class that is available in dB Drag for them to compete in.
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Where is Wayne and what he think about Street Class in 2008?
I want to built a Street car for 2008 but:
-I can't buy new battery because I don't know which size is allowed 2008. -I can't install my 1/0 because I don't know how many runs are allowed for 2008. -I can't buy new amps because it depend of the number of 1/0 runs and battery size is allowed in 2008. -I can't buy new subs because I don't know how much power I can put on it for 2008.
All is at off position and I wait... wait... until I don't have enough time to do all before the beginning of the 2008 season.
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