For a 7 KW amp the retail price is 3200 Euro (D7). 10" SoloX must be also around 700 - 800 Euro. With 5 k € u get only used stuff. We should talk here about the normal retail prices and not prices a few competitors gets I know that with good connections u even don´t need to pay 4-5 k€ for that stuff u´ve mentioned.
40 wires = is not street. Go to "TÜV" with a car having that amount of wires. For all people don´t know TÜV: Its a special inspection here in germany a car has to pass every 2 years. They look if that car is ready for driving safely. If u find a TÜV who gives u ok for a car having 40 runs of wires WITHOUT any fuse, let me know please Even with fuse i doubt they would give u an ok.
We still have to see that it is called street class. A class for normal cars driving daily.
As we seen on european section 2 guys died on the trip of the european finals back to home. Somebody crashed them into the back. I don´t know the circumstances but i am sure that this car would not go on fire having fuses. 2 - 3 years ago a german guy also had a crash with his car and it also gone on fire because he was not using fuses.
I don´t wanna start talking about the sense of fuses. But by increasing the amount of fuses u also increase the danger. 6 - 8 runs u can install well. But > 20 runs..... not in a normal car.
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i'd say separate them by the power they have like i've seen at afew different comps street a am or mini 1k/1.5k and lower or something like that, that will make some people strive to have the higher numbers in the class by using different designs to the boxs and try out different car, i think it would help people to try different techniques to make it louder
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even if you go down to lesser number of amps in street there are still big ass amps that come as a single unit, like the new kicker amp or the crown amps or even the maxximus amp - those are all single amps and still do huge power and cost a ton of money.
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I know most don't like fuses but they would reduce costs and still allow manufacturers of amps, batteries and subs an advantage of creating more efficient products and the competitor there build efficiency skills. You can still use the poroduct you already have. You will just may have to back down power but some one new doesn't need to by 2 7 watt amps to compete.
At these fuse ratings, you can through a lot of power and it would add a lot of suspense at Finals for sure.
The fuses would have to be DBDRA certified to ensure falsely silk screened fuses are not used.
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if they were to put in the fuse rating idea then i think what should happen is at multi point events they supply the fuses to anyone in street a,b,c that way they kno that the fuses are all the same rating and they kno that they are running them. it makes sence to do that because that allows them to use whatever whatever amps and subs they want to for the "daily driving" and then limits them at the multi point events... but then they'd be getting all these high ass numbers at single point events because there seems to be no real rules at them
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I mentioned in another post that the dBDRA would sell you the fuse at the event. It could be specially marked and because they put a volt meter on your car any way, they would put there meter right at the fuse.
We are currently using the official CD so why not an official fuse?
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As we seen on european section 2 guys died on the trip of the european finals back to home. Somebody crashed them into the back. I don´t know the circumstances but i am sure that this car would not go on fire having fuses. 2 - 3 years ago a german guy also had a crash with his car and it also gone on fire because he was not using fuses.
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quote:Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John: I mentioned in another post that the dBDRA would sell you the fuse at the event. It could be specially marked and because they put a volt meter on your car any way, they would put there meter right at the fuse.
We are currently using the official CD so why not an official fuse?
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quote:Originally posted by Team Maxxsonics - John: I know most don't like fuses but they would reduce costs and still allow manufacturers of amps, batteries and subs an advantage of creating more efficient products and the competitor there build efficiency skills. You can still use the poroduct you already have. You will just may have to back down power but some one new doesn't need to by 2 7 watt amps to compete. Street A: 200 amps / maybe 300 amps / maybe 400 amps ? Street B: 300 amps / maybe 400 amps / maybe 500 amps? Street C: 400 amps / maybe 500 amps / maybe 600 amps?
At these fuse ratings, you can through a lot of power and it would add a lot of suspense at Finals for sure.
The fuses would have to be DBDRA certified to ensure falsely silk screened fuses are not used.
This is very similar to the current NSPL rules
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Why not limit amp sizes.. ie class y is limited to 300cubic inches..class x is limited to 400cubic inches. ect ect.. every manufactor(?) has HxWxD in the specs of the amp. would this make it more fair. just an idea that came across. could be done in all classes?
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quote:Originally posted by Rip Rock: Why not limit amp sizes.. ie class y is limited to 300cubic inches..class x is limited to 400cubic inches. ect ect.. every manufactor(?) has HxWxD in the specs of the amp. would this make it more fair. just an idea that came across. could be done in all classes?
X2 seems pretty straight forward, especially because any amps size can be figured out with a tape measure and calculator
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