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TheBigOki
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Ok, here I go again:
I have a question about introducing new Products.
Deadline is now on sunday, July 15th.
Why not July 13 (Friday 13th [Smile] )
or monday July 16th?
Pretty useless to set it onto a sunday IMHO.

For me, its kind of relevant.
I know a product what is finished in deleopment NOW.
This week I got the news. BUT: It isnt onto an
online shop right now, or better, the real official anouncement
has to come out yet.
But this company dont know about this ruling in dB Drag.
I dont know if I can tell them in the next hours
to put it onto their website.
As I said, the product is ready NOW and will
be offered NOW or Soon, its about days and its
not about offering it to become legal in dB Drag.
But I would like to use this product for the
rest of the season 2007 including finals.
So what to do? Hoping that they announce it
within the next 2 days?
I have pictures and technical datas and know that
other companies just put products onto their websites what dont even exist
to that time.
This is different from that company, product
exists, and its not a "prototypeletsseewhatwecanimprovenowbutwemadeitavailablerightintime" thing...

What do you say?

Thanks.

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Mike Fallon
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It depends on what the product is.

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Just some thoughts from a nobody. [Smile]
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TheBigOki
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Its a new woofer.


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MM [Razz]

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Mike Fallon
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Is it a new design or is it a different configuration for parts currently out there?

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TheBigOki
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The frame (basket) is old, basically its
the same speaker line than an existing line,
but now its a special SPL version.
But motor is new, cone is new, I dont know
about the spider and the coil, they MAY
be the same, but I dont know exactly.
Surround is old.

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MM [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by TheBigOki:
its not a "prototypeletsseewhatwecanimprovenowbutwemadeitavailablerightintime" thing...

What thing is it Oki ? [Obscene] [Big Grin]

Only if you gone use it in extreme its not legal [Razz]

J/K !!

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TheBigOki
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Hi Stany,
its a "buy it off the shelf" thing.
For everybody, nothing customizeable.
Only problem is maybe the high price (for this brand)
and so you need to order it specially because
building thousands of them and store them is too expensive.

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Brad Eubank
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last year cutoff was moved to the end of the season, I dont know why Wayne would change it back this year.
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TheBigOki
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Ok,
here are brandnew Infos about the situation !

Today I met the responsoble developer
of that product at an Event what I did.
When I got the news from him, a few days
ago, that the woofer is READY, he was already
gone out of office for a visit of some german
dealers of that brand. So I had to explain him
personally whats the problem with that deadline.
Ok, these people finished that woofer without
knowing something about a deadline for dB Drag.
And they would have put it onto the wensite when
nice blinky blinky product fotos are available
and so on. Thats how they are so professional
in what theire doing. But now this info would have
been too late, or IS maybe too late to use the
woofers in dB Drag and at the finals for dB Drag.
So they "authorized" me to anounce that this
woofer is now READY and COMERCIALLY AVAILABLE.
But question is : Will MY VOICE count for that?
I mean it can take a while until it appears on the website,
a few days maybe. Details are not out yet, what impedance,
what parameters. I just have ONE photo from the front,
and I know that it will have about 7 Kilogramms of Neodymium.
There is also a version with 14 (!!!) Kilogramms of Neodymium.
But I think it will be the 7 Kilo Version.
Basket will be black and the same as I said.
The woofer has to come right from the factory, what will
take a while also, but it CAN be ordered and is not
a custom made thing. If everything works out,
I will have the #1 of the production laying around
at my event on July 21st so that every vistor can touch it.
Again, this will be a special order thing, because the prize will
be higher than any else Woofer of that brand.
They ESTIMATE something between 1500 and 3000 Euro.
What is a wide wide range.

So, thats it, I hope I choose the right words
to make this an legal anouncement. Also I would like
to hear a definitively answer from a judge or maybe Wayne
(but I know he is reaaaaly busy with moving and planning the finals).
I will put that text into the german forum also.
Its now about 2 hours to the deadline here in germany.
I try to animate then to put the rare infos onto the website.
I dont even know IF I will use this woofers in the cars,
or anybody else, but its so close with that deadline that I hope
it will be ok.

Again for understanding:
This company, ACR, is my main sponsor also and I informed them about
some dB Drag rules. But I dont know everything what they do and plan,
nor do I have big influence, maybe a little [Smile]
But we want to do it right (even if leate) and legal.

Thanks for your attention [Smile]

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MM [Razz]

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TheBigOki
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Hoopsi !
Totally forgot the name and the pics [Smile]

E15NEO-Comp

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MM [Razz]

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TheBigOki
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So no real official word on this so far.

I just can tell the Retail price here.
It will be 2250 Euros (2860 Dollars).
Too good that it has 7 Kilogramms of Neodymium less
than planned, or the price would be around 3000 Euro...

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MM [Razz]

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TheBigOki
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Ok, its a while ago and I got some green lights for my stuff
already (regardless that its still on the way from China [Frown] )
we have a little discussion here about
"prototyes" or lets say "non official, available"
equipment (woofers).
I say that you cannot use this equipment at ANY
Multipoint Events, and the finals, if its not
introduced in the market. And the deadline
for usage at the finals is the 60days prior
season cut off.

So you cannot use non existing woofers before,
or after the deadline. Anyways it makes no sense
when youre allowed to set world records with that
stuff BEFORE the deadline, and not after it.

You understand what I mean?

In example, it was allowed to use non existing Woofers
at Multipoint Events, to set german records,
get certified score, BEFORE the deadline.
I am 100% sure that this is NOT CORRECT !

You just can use that "prototypes" at single point events.
But NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER at Multipoints,
at NO TIME, when they are not officially available and introduced in the market like I/we did it
with the Emphaser Woofers.

BTW, they are on the website since this time,
visible and ready to order for EVERYBODY !!!

www.emphaser.com go to produkte/woofers/SPL-X4
So basically its "just" an improvement of the
Emphaser E15SPL-X4 and a competition Version.
And not even a completely new product what should
make it 1000% save.

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MM [Razz]

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My 2 cents would be,
for proto types use any time... ex WF and EF.
If all is made offical before cut off. It should be ok for EF and WF.

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5-5 Auto sound equipment introduced less than 60 days prior to the Season Cut-Off date will not be permitted at the Finals or at ANY multi-point event. (Products must actually be shipping and commercially available at retailers 60 days prior to the deadline date.) Please visit www.termpro.com/dbdrag/rules for specific deadline information.

Note that products must actually be shipped and available, and not only announced...

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[Big Grin]

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TheBigOki
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What if they are shipped to me, but it takes so long?
I wait now since weeks for my subs what are on their way [Frown]
Available doesnt mean that you snap with your finger
and the stuff appears suddenly...

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MM [Razz]

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