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AudioAnonymous
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Orrrrrrr....do I have to rip some stuff out and make it fit elsewhere?


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that is a tough call. it is still "under the hood" but not in the actual engine bay.

interesting question and good luck with the results

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I would say that there are 2 things that are touchy.

The front end kit is a modification of the exterior skin of the car making it larger which is now being used to fit a battery.
The mod originally was done for cosmetics but is now a functional modification so not legal.


If the factory front clip was on the van would the battery fit where you want to put it?

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If a CRX can put on a stubby intake for "performance" and then use the extra space for a huge battery, then I see no reason that this is not legal. You did an aftermarket, readily available conversion, for appearance, and you just happen to have extra room. I would demonstrate that the battery would fit somewhere else but not necessarily put it there. Have a "backup" if that doesn't work, but it should be legal. Remember at finals when some street guys had to swap their batteries?

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not legal unsafe mounting location even a minor front end hit could cause a fire,or i could see that thing flying into another car after impact?

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p.s. i think battery must be mounted in factory location under the hood in sm?

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Yea I suppose your right quad. It would hit the front of my trailer if I happened to crash not to safe. It would be strapped down if I put it there. I suppose I could have a front end collision in the lanes...

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http://www.dbdrag.com/dbdrag/rules/2007/section4.asp

Section 4.4

Modifications to the external OEM "skin" (body) of the vehicle are not permitted if the modification in question will result in a change in the vehicle's interior volume. The dBDRA defines the "skin" of the vehicle as the external shell (top, front, back, and sides) of the vehicle's OEM body that gives the vehicle its distinctive appearance. This is also the part of the vehicle that is normally painted. The underside or undercarriage of the vehicle is not considered to be a part of the OEM "skin".

Additional Guidelines:

* "Chop-tops" are prohibited.
* Non-OEM extended roofs are prohibited.
* Non-OEM vehicle extensions or "stretches" are prohibited.
* Cut-throughs in pickup trucks are permitted in the Street Max, Super Street, and Extreme Divisions provided the enclosure and / or other equipment that is located in the bed of the truck does not extend above the sidewalls of the bed. If the pickup has a commercially available camper shell, then the sidewall restriction does not apply. Homemade camper shells are strictly prohibited.
* Modifications that are strictly cosmetic in nature, or that do not affect the internal volume of the vehicle are permissible. This includes spoilers, hood scoops, air dams, fender flares, etc.
* Crushing in the roof or the doors of the vehicle in such a manner as to alter the vehicle's interior volume is prohibited.
* External bracing on the skin of the vehicle is prohibited.


The front bumper and fenders are part of the skin.
When it was cosmetic in nature it was legal.
Now that you are using the additional space for a battery it is functional and questionable on legality.

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That mod for looks is no where near the mod on a certain crx roof that is loud.
If that has been legal for years than i think this one is legal also.

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Im no expert on these vehicles.

If youve fitted a new front, which now allows fitment of that battery and the original bumper wouldnt, its illegal.

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IMO its legal.

Mr Bump he put the Cadillac conversion on his van AT LEAST 2 years ago. Now he happens to have extra room.

Its under the hood....its legal IMO.

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Same thing as a widebody kit on a car.

If you do it for looks but happen to put an enclosure in it is it legal?
http://www.termpro.com/showcars/index.asp?Page=21

I think I like the look of a hightop conversion van. I know its legal and it won't make any diference in the ability to add equiptment, and people won't take it to the extreme.
Ranai Foster and reactions in newspaper article. That was a turning point in some rules tho. It got us a rule against Mob-Type activities.

Just remember that if people are going to do cosmetic mods then fill them with equiptment it may be opening the door to a lot of abuses.

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Mounting Location is Legal, Voltage is not.

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oh yeah, and it should be legal because your runs are now about 2ft longer then before so everyone else using an astro has an advantage due to their wire being shorter

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Actually my wire hasnt changed length at all. [Smile]

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Looks legal to me.

The nee front end was put on there before, we all know it. Just so happens now he has a reason to use the extra space it provided.

Either way, it's still under the hood, so by the batt location rule alone, it's 100% legal.

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There. I fixed it. [Smile]

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I liked being able to see it through the grill, I'd say having it visible through the grill is a Cosmetic Modification, because then you dont need to pop the hood and show off your dirty engine bay while at a show if you want to show off your CS9000

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It doesnt matter when he did the mod, if it gains him space, which he uses for audio equipment, its illegal.

Your going to be loud, your going to be at WF, do it 100% so nobody can DQ you or question you at Finals.

Im thinking of you here, nothing else.

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Good Move! and x2 for what Mr Bump said.

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioAnonymous:
There. I fixed it. [Smile]

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much safer

9,000 amps of current wedge between a fender, A+ for saftey

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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
quote:
Originally posted by AudioAnonymous:
There. I fixed it. [Smile]

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much safer

9,000 amps of current wedge between a fender, A+ for saftey

But how unsafe is over 12 runs of 0ga unfused....hell if your going to live on the edge...might as well have one foot over it ....lol

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Who cares??? It's in there and it's one loud @@@ battery. [Big Grin]

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