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I talked to Brad Firgard at USACi finals. The DD battery wasn't much difference for him either, just said it was more consistent as in could get a couple burps instead of just one and reproduce the same score. To me, I'd just make sure I didnt screw up and that I only need one burp per 30 second run
One other thing I think should be considered if these batteries are allowed. Since most of these are custom made anyway, mainly just for dB drag racing, why not allow anyone to make their own? Thats what people are doing anyway, just charging outrageous amounts for them when some of these batteries are really not that expensive to build.
1300$...I dont think the cost to make that battery is even half of that. Especially when things are bought in bulk as we all know they are because they are commercially available and all and if they are commercially available you wouldn't just make a few of them
NiMH is several times better than lead acid, but you need more than 6 cells to reach 14v. A special charger is required for optimum charge.
Lithium are slightly more powerful, but less than 6 will be required to reach 14v.
Hmm, Lead acit requires 6 cells to reach 12-14v - this could be an easy one. (6 is a clue)
PS, I have now given up Street, I dont agree with allowing non 12v automotive equipment. Sure, both the new batt technologies are automotive in hybrid vehicles... hmmm hybrid batts are not allowed in the rules....
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haha, if there was no difference I start kissing my own ass
150+ hawker d-cells are much more than just the same as NSB90. If there is no difference one of both batteries must be a little bit broken.
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quote:Originally posted by shaven99ranger: When we have TV deals, sponsors hauling our cars to shows and flying us there, putting us up in hotels, and paying all of our expenses, with multi million cash payouts at each event, then you can compare this to formula one or nascar or whatever else you like.
Holla at me when a stereo company invests 30 billion in merchandising, a 'pit crew' consisting of the who's who of stereo builders, commercials, and such.
This is dB Drag dude, a sport for the common man.
hmmm..... is dbdrag not a competition for distributors???? SS and Extreme rules are not made for normal people. And now also street rules are getting not affordable.
To tell the truth I also canīt understand waynes point of view. Here in europe dbdrag is having less competitors year by year so its not surprisable if a new kind of competition got developed. And also dbdrag is having less spectators. Who cares about cars in which u even canīt take a look in. At finals every car has dark sheets not to allow somebody to take a look in.
When u look ahead dbdrag will die for sure. distributors has also less money than some years before. The rivalry got much harder. Just one example, who has seen Rockford Fosgate at this european and world finals??? Nobody because RF doesnīt support and sponsor dbdrag anymore. Thats sad because I also have been a big fan of rockford. But the situation changed.
Less competitors, less spectators.... from what Iīve heard that also happens there in the united states. It seems that Wayne earns the same money than in the years before. If u donīt get money by competitors, then u get money by sponsors. Thats an easy thought.
Real competitor likes serious opponents To win by 0.2, 0.3 db...... thats what is doing fun. And not winning by more than 1 db. And this is only possible if u have many competitors in each class
quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
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Back in 02 my girlfriend said I had to make a choice between her and DB Drag....I told that b-tch I've made harder decisions at the Coke machine. Posts: 4188 | From: Suitland,MD USA | Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
those amps will run on a nsb also its just trial and error
i lost 0.1 with the boxter battery against a nsb but like someone earlier said it is way more consistant than a nsb
i dont care if it will be legal or not next year i wont lose score if not i will just take the batt apart and sell it in pieces
people have to learn that not the equipment wins finals its the hard work that wins finals
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quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
those amps will run on a nsb also its just trial and error
i lost 0.1 with the boxter battery against a nsb but like someone earlier said it is way more consistant than a nsb
i dont care if it will be legal or not next year i wont lose score if not i will just take the batt apart and sell it in pieces
people have to learn that not the equipment wins finals its the hard work that wins finals
Panda set-ups are very different from our crx set ups impedance rise and freq is different 4 amps will not work off nsb90 in my case.
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Back in 02 my girlfriend said I had to make a choice between her and DB Drag....I told that b-tch I've made harder decisions at the Coke machine. Posts: 4188 | From: Suitland,MD USA | Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
those amps will run on a nsb also its just trial and error
i lost 0.1 with the boxter battery against a nsb but like someone earlier said it is way more consistant than a nsb
i dont care if it will be legal or not next year i wont lose score if not i will just take the batt apart and sell it in pieces
people have to learn that not the equipment wins finals its the hard work that wins finals
Panda set-ups are very different from our crx set ups impedance rise and freq is different 4 amps will not work off nsb90 in my case.
maybe you need to work a little bit harder
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quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
those amps will run on a nsb also its just trial and error
i lost 0.1 with the boxter battery against a nsb but like someone earlier said it is way more consistant than a nsb
i dont care if it will be legal or not next year i wont lose score if not i will just take the batt apart and sell it in pieces
people have to learn that not the equipment wins finals its the hard work that wins finals
Panda set-ups are very different from our crx set ups impedance rise and freq is different 4 amps will not work off nsb90 in my case.
maybe you need to work a little bit harder
not enough work in this world
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2008 US.Top Cert.Street C 158.4 2008 25-48 No-wall NSPL World Champion,World Record 159.0 2007 U.S.Top Cert. Street A,B,C 2005 Db Drag Street A World Champion 2004 Db Drag US. record 642 points 2003 Db Drag Points World Champion http://www.maxxsonics.com/
Back in 02 my girlfriend said I had to make a choice between her and DB Drag....I told that b-tch I've made harder decisions at the Coke machine. Posts: 4188 | From: Suitland,MD USA | Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski: Real competitor likes serious opponents To win by 0.2, 0.3 db...... thats what is doing fun. And not winning by more than 1 db. And this is only possible if u have many competitors in each class
I can see your point in most of the reply.... BUT THIS ONE IS BS!!!!!!!!!! WTF are you talking about?????? I came to WF and did my Score with 1 NSB90 just like every one elce, I used subs that any one can aford in DB Drag, I used amps that any one can buy in DB Drag.
WTF!!!! I won by a few DB`S dos that mean I have to stop playing or stop worken my ass off to make the good score??????? Yo if you think it is all in the bat. or the most expansave stuff you better think aging.
We are only human, some people work harder than the other, and some have more luck than the other..... LOOK! "If God Wanted Us To Be Diffrent, He Would Have Made Diffrent"
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quote:Originally posted by Toxic Tuan: Yay or Nay...doesn't matter to me.
Honest truth: I lost 3 tenths from a NSB 90 to a DD Battery. No BS...no games...no lies. It cost me $1300 to learn this. If they had banned the multicell batteries before finals...I would have saved $1300.
tuan
Add two DD Z2's or Hyfonics 5k's to that battery of yours and see what happens
those amps will run on a nsb also its just trial and error
i lost 0.1 with the boxter battery against a nsb but like someone earlier said it is way more consistant than a nsb
i dont care if it will be legal or not next year i wont lose score if not i will just take the batt apart and sell it in pieces
people have to learn that not the equipment wins finals its the hard work that wins finals
Panda set-ups are very different from our crx set ups impedance rise and freq is different 4 amps will not work off nsb90 in my case.
maybe you need to work a little bit harder
not enough work in this world
Bro I think you need to come over some time and see what we do over here... LOL I all ways said you cant run 2 Crowns on 1 bat ither, BUT You guys made it work. lol So maken 4 Z1 work on 1 NSB 90 is not a prob.
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quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski: Real competitor likes serious opponents To win by 0.2, 0.3 db...... thats what is doing fun. And not winning by more than 1 db. And this is only possible if u have many competitors in each class
I can see your point in most of the reply.... BUT THIS ONE IS BS!!!!!!!!!! WTF are you talking about?????? I came to WF and did my Score with 1 NSB90 just like every one elce, I used subs that any one can aford in DB Drag, I used amps that any one can buy in DB Drag.
WTF!!!! I won by a few DB`S dos that mean I have to stop playing or stop worken my ass off to make the good score??????? Yo if you think it is all in the bat. or the most expansave stuff you better think aging.
We are only human, some people work harder than the other, and some have more luck than the other..... LOOK! "If God Wanted Us To Be Diffrent, He Would Have Made Diffrent"
I think you may have missunderstood what he was saying. dB Drags is getting very expensive, and the number of competitors is becoming less every year. I think what he was saying was basically that if dB Drags was cheaper to do then more people would do it, and the competition would be harder since you have more people working towards the goal and more creativity comes from more people. But I could be wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski: Real competitor likes serious opponents To win by 0.2, 0.3 db...... thats what is doing fun. And not winning by more than 1 db. And this is only possible if u have many competitors in each class
I can see your point in most of the reply.... BUT THIS ONE IS BS!!!!!!!!!! WTF are you talking about?????? I came to WF and did my Score with 1 NSB90 just like every one elce, I used subs that any one can aford in DB Drag, I used amps that any one can buy in DB Drag.
WTF!!!! I won by a few DB`S dos that mean I have to stop playing or stop worken my ass off to make the good score??????? Yo if you think it is all in the bat. or the most expansave stuff you better think aging.
We are only human, some people work harder than the other, and some have more luck than the other..... LOOK! "If God Wanted Us To Be Diffrent, He Would Have Made Diffrent"
I think you may have missunderstood what he was saying. dB Drags is getting very expensive, and the number of competitors is becoming less every year. I think what he was saying was basically that if dB Drags was cheaper to do then more people would do it, and the competition would be harder since you have more people working towards the goal and more creativity comes from more people. But I could be wrong.
you may or may not be wrong but what you are saying is true. less expensive more competitors. more expensive less competitors.
Everybody of us knows that the score is basically not in the battery, amps and subs. Its in the box and the car. But even u have a very efficient box and not high power equipment u have a few dbs difference in the street between the top guys. But if everybody would have the same power, the differences would be much less. U wouldnīt get results like (159, 157, 155, 153) but scores like (152, 151, 150, 149, 148). All beginners would see "an end". I mean
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