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not really. but im just waiting to see if i have to spend the money. prob wont know till sometime after march. i hope they change the rule though.
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I can see the multi battery batteries being ruled out, like the Crankenstein and the 3200. After all, there is 4 batteries in one case.
But batteries made of multiple 2 volt cells are harder to judge.
Do we need to say, 6 2 volt cells, in a standard battery configuration?
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quote:Originally posted by dbWarrior: Simple rule like 6 PC'S of 2Volt cell will make the trick.
you are totally right i hope they will change that rule into this
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the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8436 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
and no offense steve if they aren't going to change AT ALL, why does wayne not just release the rules for db drag now???
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
The only thing we can do then is wait till dbdrag die's
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
whaha........ thats a good reason....... LOL so u wanna say that there has been already multiple point events and now they rules canīt change LOL......
Isnīt it the reason that some sponsors of dbdrag wouldnīt be very enthused
Is 158 for SA and 160 not good enough for u Without any change u will see even higher scores and less competitors in the street classes. Some sponsors of dbdrag will produce stronger batteries and nobody is able to buy them or isnīt as stupid to buy them because everybody knows that a battery used for competition gets down after about 1 year. And noone of the normal customers is going to buy a battery for 500+ dollars.
quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
The only thing we can do then is wait till dbdrag die's
x2 and thats sad
@everybody who support multiple cell batteries: Take a look who stopped doing dbdrag after EF
quote:Originally posted by dumdum: how many street cars have 10k rms plus in them, which is the way st.a will be going
hey..... u donīt know that its a way to find new sponsors for dbdrag
Money is making the rules
The other problem is that not many people know what they are talking about if they concern to issues for street classes So everybody who KNOWS what he is talking about should only post here
quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
btw. i canīt find any rule who allows 4 batteries (Batcap 800) in one case - also called Kinetik HC3200. People must be blind not to see that there are 4 batteries
quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: the rule wont change. The rules are fine the way they are. If the rules were going to change then we wouldn't have had any multi point events already. The rules have been consistant the past 2 years and their not going to change now.
btw. i canīt find any rule who allows 4 batteries (Batcap 800) in one case - also called Kinetik HC3200. People must be blind not to see that there are 4 batteries
but your still limited to 800 cubic inches. you can only get so much power out of a battery. By db drag racing setting these limits, it causes manufactures to build higher power batteries in smaller cases. This only advances the autosound industry.
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@dbSteve: Maybe u like to comment what u see here. It seems that Tor donīt care about that topic - maybe it donīt give money ...... 6 months to wait must be enough. Many people understand oem equivalent a little bit different
quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski: @dbSteve: Maybe u like to comment what u see here. It seems that Tor donīt care about that topic - maybe it donīt give money ...... 6 months to wait must be enough. Many people understand oem equivalent a little bit different
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i can only imagine how strong a multi cell lithium ion battery will be. will be expensive but im sure you can power 4 big amplifiers with barely any voltage drop. but the day someone gets happy and overcharges one caboom
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I think the rule is fine as it is. Many competitors have already purchased these batteries to be competitive, and they will be rendered useless if they get outlawed. I was personally against allowing them to begin with, but now that they are in, and companies have spent the money to engineer a better battery, we cant continue to bite the hand that feeds us...
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I'm sorry, but these batteries are against the idea of Street class. These $1000 batteries are built for one purpose and that's SPL. NO ONE ELSE MAKES A BATTERY LIKE THIS TO DRIVE AROUND ON.
Also I can't wait until these batteries start failing... and they will! Then you either need to re-build it to the tune of $500-$700 or you need to just buck up and buy a new one.
Hey if it comes down to it I'll buy the battery, but these batteries are against the spirit of Street class.
Some could say big amps are against the spirit, but guess what I've had people come in when I was working in retail and ask to buy a Z1 for everyday use. We even had a customer try his hardest to buy a GTI6000... but ran out of money (mostly because he got busted for possession) but still the fact remains this battery is NOT for everyday use. I would bet if you drive on this battery for a year and used it for street use it would be broken before the year was up.
Also these batteries just open a door. Who is to say "who is" and "who is not" a battery manufacturer. I know someone with a Tax ID # that could produce batteries very similar, if not better than the ones on the market today. We could have a few stores in the area market the battery have a "retail" front, a web page, and use the batteries for ourselves cutting out the companies making the batteries and if these batteries are deemed legal I would be willing to bet there would be alot of people going this route.
Point is I believe if a company makes ONLY one battery they are not, in fact, a battery manufacturer!
Sure the NSB90 was NOT intended to be in cars, but Northstar makes an entire battery line! So I guess the real question here is how is this battery in the spirit of "street" and what constitutes a battery manufacturer?
In my opinion these "batteries" are NO different than the whole Trendsetters amp controversy that occurred in 2005. I won't name names on who makes what cells, but taking cells from Manufacturer "A"...creating your own 800 cubic inch case... and putting as many cells in that case as possible is no different than taking 2 amps made by Lightning Audio and putting them in one case.
All I'm saying is opening this door will only take the sport in a direction I don't think people want to go, personally I don't care once the rules come out I'm buying the best equipment for Street A and getting to work, but everyone out there does not share the same attitude as me.
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We left the spirit of the street class a long time ago...
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