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mdspl
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I would like to see Points awarded to the Head Judges of Single point shows to those judges that compete, Of course there will be a cap say 1/2 of the points needed for finals. And then the Head Judge will not be able to compete at their Show they are judging..

This will help,
1. having the shows run more smoothly
2. Make the appearance of more "fairness" most certainly to the competitors that are in the said judges class.
3. Award judges who take the opportunity to run shows.

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lol, I would have more points than OKI!

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I would still like to see the freq limit brought down to 60Hz from S to SS, there wont be such a gap between competition and street, and competitors who want a bit of both will have a better chance.

Anyone noticed that we have driven away a lot of potental novices, as they turn up with a 40-50Hz system, and just dont ever bother again when they see they "think" they need an un-listenable 79Hz honker.

Anything above 60Hz is un-realistic in the REAL world, all we get is excuses that so is 18v, etc etc. Whatever, stick to this issue.

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What you guys are thinking Street cars nw-line ?

Should it be checked different method because lots of new cars has front side windows what lowest point is really low.
Of course you can buy a car what doesn't have that kind of problem but still is it nessesary to keep that rule that way how it is written right now ?
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What about multi cell batteries at street classes ?
Is it good idea to keep them at season 2007 ?

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Limiting the runs of 0 guage cable down the car will limit the benifit of multi cell batteries, and keep street a little more street.

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I agree with Mikko, but also think the battery limit should be eased to 2, 3 and 4 in the respective Street clases, at least here in PR almost avery competitor dayly drives their car with more batts and take them out for the shows. Also I believe we should let the no wall cars to be modified in the areas where the system is allowed to be, (behind door pillars and below door window level), because they're SS after all.

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quote:
Originally posted by dBSteve:
lol, I would have more points than OKI!

that is exactly why i said there would be a cap

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quote:
Originally posted by firestarter:
Limiting the runs of 0 guage cable down the car will limit the benifit of multi cell batteries, and keep street a little more street.

not what i was asking about, but i will bite, this will cause a HUGE safty issue, not alot of people that compete know what limiting the amount of power wire can do, but it is a possible fire hazzard.

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Street like it is , is good .
Everybody understand the rules , no problems .
Just try to keep the "weird" produkts out that cause multiple threads off babling .
Double amp thing is solved with conducterrule .
Now the big batts , dousnt matter how they are constructed . A 1000 dollar batt isnt what we want for street class .
The batt was the big excuse to limit power in street .
Construct a rule where says 6 x 2v cells , like any normal batt .
dB Drag tells what a sub should look like , what an amp is , so why not point out how a batt should look like .
We want to keep db drag "cheap" .

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quote:
Originally posted by firestarter:
Limiting the runs of 0 guage cable down the car will limit the benifit of multi cell batteries, and keep street a little more street.

It must be meassured how much power u get using the same number of wires in 2 different cars. For the first car u need 3.3 metres. For the second car u need 5.5 metres......... I suppose the difference is big -> advantage for small cars

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quote:
Originally posted by dbWarrior:
What about multi cell batteries at street classes ?
Is it good idea to keep them at season 2007 ?

its one of the most stupid decicions done in the past.

Who of u donīt mind using just small batteries u only get about 800 - 1000 ampere out of them. Its still enough power. But far less u can get now out of the best batteries like Crankenstein etc etc..... U wouldnīt need 4 DDz1 in Street to be competitive. Small amps like 4 EXT2000 would be enough and mean also less power on the sub.

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You cant change battery rules, and you cant change rules on wire. People have already spent too much time and money on them to change things now is rediculous.

Nathan: Your suggestion is only going to benefit you and possibily fred wright jr. I dont see how it would help db drag...

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quote:
Originally posted by Broken Silence - Johnny:
You cant change battery rules, and you cant change rules on wire. People have already spent too much time and money on them to change things now is rediculous.

Nathan: Your suggestion is only going to benefit you and possibily fred wright jr. I dont see how it would help db drag...

so its getting much more expensive every year LOL.........

dbdrag lost enough good competitors this year in europe. But who cares

Lets decide new rules by people who know what they are speaking about and not like happened with multiple-cell battery where the decicion was based on marketing reasons to make a manufacturer more known

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quote:
Originally posted by Chmielewski:
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Silence - Johnny:
You cant change battery rules, and you cant change rules on wire. People have already spent too much time and money on them to change things now is rediculous.

Nathan: Your suggestion is only going to benefit you and possibily fred wright jr. I dont see how it would help db drag...

so its getting much more expensive every year LOL.........

dbdrag lost enough good competitors this year in europe. But who cares

Lets decide new rules by people who know what they are speaking about and not like happened with multiple-cell battery where the decicion was based on marketing reasons to make a manufacturer more known

I dont agree with the multiple cell batteries, but the rule has been made, we can't go back now, unless of course someone is going to buy back all the batteries these competitors have purchased...

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That argument is ridiculous...

Did anyone have to buy back subs when they dropped quad coils?

Does anyone have to buy back MDF/steel when they change the EXT rules?

They can't base the rules on how much it's going to cost people to conform. They need to base it on what makes sense for the sport.

People were warned months ago that these batteries were pushing a limit that may be corrected next season, so they only have themselves to blame.

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I have heard that there WILL be a new battery rule next year and it is going to rule out a bunch of batterys people are using. But I dont see any other street rule changing.

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quote:
Originally posted by boommerextreme:
I have heard that there WILL be a new battery rule next year and it is going to rule out a bunch of batterys people are using. But I dont see any other street rule changing.

Not sure where you heard this. But nothing has been discussed to my knowledge.

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I liked the rule changes we had from '05 to '06.. partically none ! [Embarrassed]

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quote:
Originally posted by JordyO:
That argument is ridiculous...

Did anyone have to buy back subs when they dropped quad coils?

Does anyone have to buy back MDF/steel when they change the EXT rules?

They can't base the rules on how much it's going to cost people to conform. They need to base it on what makes sense for the sport.

People were warned months ago that these batteries were pushing a limit that may be corrected next season, so they only have themselves to blame.

Yeah, i'm sure those extreme guys would have left their interior alone and not rebuilt it. I'm also sure that no one would have blown up their quads and needed to rebuild them to a DVC, and just in case you didnt know people were allowed to run their quads as a DVC. It is a perfectly valid arguement.

As far as the people who are "pushing the limit" they are within the rules and are doing what it takes to win. Some people understand that, you obviously don't.

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quote:
Originally posted by dBSteve:
quote:
Originally posted by boommerextreme:
I have heard that there WILL be a new battery rule next year and it is going to rule out a bunch of batterys people are using. But I dont see any other street rule changing.

Not sure where you heard this. But nothing has been discussed to my knowledge.
Hum from a higher power is what I heard.

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wow u can speak to GOD!!!!!!!!!!

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LOL Didnt you hear this too....

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