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PioneerSaturn
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Hey guys,

The Saturn got a wiring and battery upgrade to bring it's electrical up to a more respectable level [Smile] ...Enjoy

Pair of D3100's and a solid copper bar (.25" x 1.25") for busbars...

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Engine bay before upgrade...blah..

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Heating up the copper for bending..

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Horizontal bandsaw cutting the copper down..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Drilled and tapped..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Sides of frame prepped for wiring..

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Some power wire..

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Had to take out the spare tire tie-down for batt's in the spare tire wheel well..

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Starting the power wire runs and fusing upfront..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Flying saturn!..

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(it looks like theyre just sagging and hanging, but theyre more secure now)

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Made it to the trunk..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Ground runs' turn..

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Hole through the front, passenger side wheel well..

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Finishing the busbars..

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Ground runs starting..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Ground runs made it to the trunk..

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Getting the speaker wire ready (yes, that's 4-gauge)

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Mounting terminal..

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Sizing up mounting for the amp..

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For the inside of the enclosure..(8-gauge)

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Got the amp's plate mounted and attaching anchors to mount the amp..

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Trim panel back on...goes right over the 4-runs of 1/0 gauge [Big Grin]

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Has plenty of clearance..

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Mounting bracket I made to hold the batteries down..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Piece of angle iron bolted in front of the batteries...

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Bolts for the busbars, have to cut them down..

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Cutting them down..

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Piece of allthread for the hold-down bracket..

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(more later on about the bracket)

ground runs attached to their busbar..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Prepping the rear fuse holders for the power runs..

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Fuse holders cases mounted..

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Power runs attached to their busbar..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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(upfront in the engine bay..)

Bent the ground runs' ring terminals for a better fit on busbar..

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Upfront finished! [Big Grin]

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Needs more wires [Big Grin]

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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(Back to the mounting bracket)

Super glued the nut on one end to keep it from spinning..

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Caulk on the washer and nut to keep it sealed up..

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Prepping the fuses and distro I need for the amp..

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Fuses mounted (ofcourse I run out of blue kolossus...so I have to make due with silver, ugh)

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Power runs for amp and theground run connected and done

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Bracket tightened down and holds them FIRM

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The busbars were a bit higher than I was expecting so I need to make a spacer for the enclosure to clear them and the wires..

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Bedlining them so they dont look tacky..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Bedlining done..

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Sizing them up...

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Mounted..

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The 18 inspecting the upgrade...it seemed very pleased, but really just wanted to get back in the freakin trunk..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Wiring up the sub..

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Port-wall mounting and fastened down..

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Enclosure in and amp mounted and wired [Big Grin]

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Heated up and bent a screwdriver to adjust the amp without pulling it..

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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I get everything in and go take a test drive and hear something rolling around and notice my phone's gone...MY FREAKING PHONE WAS INSIDE THE ENCLOSURE...lol, but I was kind of ticked. But I just pulled the port wall and got it..

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FINISHED [Smile]

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So far it's proven extremely solid [Big Grin] Im happy with it

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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very nice work!

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Why, thank you [Smile]

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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whew thats what you call a good job and lots of details

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Thanks man. And she's my daily, so I had to do it right [Big Grin]

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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i like it!

I was laughing at first because I didn't know there was a trim panel that went back over the outside lol.

I was like...damn he's went nuts and just putting wire on the outside of the car

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Haha thanks, yea...plenty of people were like 'wtf..' wen they saw the wires, but the panels go right over them [Wink]

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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Looks sweet! Let me know when you're ready to replace the batt under the hood [Smile]

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Nice [Smile]

Good choice on batteries in the back too!

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Thanks guys [Smile] ...and ive been thinking about replacing the front battery to an xs power, but I havent had an issue with the kinetik so it'd be quite some time for me to do that...but i'll keep it in mind [Big Grin]

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Creator-Ohio Bass Society

First and only dual-alternator 'real' Saturn (pre 2002) on the planet [Big Grin]
(2) 18" Omegas fed by a SoundStream XXX10000
12.75 cubes net @ 30.5Hz, 200 sq inches of port [Smile]
Replaced AC with 250 amp alt
225 amp alternator in stock location (custom bracket)
(2) XS Power D3100's
4 power+4 ground 1/0-gauge runs
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