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curious what the majority of street A competitors use for batteries since the new rules that took in effect? and what are all the options out there for that size of battery?

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i belive the use everstart.......

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Powermaster 2700, NSB 75, I think and NSB g2700. Right now I have a BatCap 2000 under the hood, I am in Street A.....

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quote:
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i belive the use everstart.......

i believe this isnt my first rodeo cowboy. just dont pay attention to street class very much. and im considering running street A in the future after i finish my van for bassrace

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I have a odyssey 1750...its pretty good. Haven't compared it to anything yet but the odyssey 1700, powermaster 2700 and NSB75 all are the right size

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PowerMaster 2700

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^^^^^ I would listen to her ^^^^^

I might try that one out, if I cannot find anything else, at least around here.

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the powermaster imo is not the best choice

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Just curious, does the new d3400 fall in under 650 in^3?

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NSB G2700

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I wonder how the NSB would compare to the odyssey...they probobly all hit a similar number.

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quote:
Originally posted by delvryboy:
Just curious, does the new d3400 fall in under 650 in^3?

Yes... and I'm anxious for someone to put it up against these others [Smile]

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looking at the specs it seems less powerful than the 2700 and the 2700 doesn't compare well with the others mentioned

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The D2700 has faired very well from what I've seen... I've only heard of one instance where it was not louder in a direct swap, and from the details I was given about the swap I think the test needs to be re-visited [Wink]

The terminal on the D2700 is pretty small in comparison to the others mentioned... if a terminal block is removed from a Stinger (with a 3/8" stud) and placed on the D2700 with an M6 pad, you will loose around 25% of your contact area. To be within a tenth or two with 25% less contact area seems pretty comparable to me [Smile]

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what is the solution to this, I don't understand if there is a contact area problem why these terminals are used?

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The solution is dont use the same connection you took off the Stinger to put on the XS Power. You need a connector with an M6 (approx. 1/4" diameter hole) so you can get the full contact area of the terminal pad.

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Powercell pc3000 and nsb 75!

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In every test I have seen and heard of the powermaster 2700 was better.

Now I have not used or heard of every battery swap tested so there may still yet be a better one out there, if you find it please share test results.

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my powermaster 3100 beat the odyssey 1750 by 0.3db

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quote:
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my powermaster 3100 beat the odyssey 1750 by 0.3db

what voltage drop do u have? and how many ampere u get out?

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quote:
Originally posted by scottiej:
The D2700 has faired very well from what I've seen... I've only heard of one instance where it was not louder in a direct swap, and from the details I was given about the swap I think the test needs to be re-visited [Wink]

The terminal on the D2700 is pretty small in comparison to the others mentioned... if a terminal block is removed from a Stinger (with a 3/8" stud) and placed on the D2700 with an M6 pad, you will loose around 25% of your contact area. To be within a tenth or two with 25% less contact area seems pretty comparable to me [Smile]

The test was a direct swap using the same threaded 1.25-1.5" bolt to mount the buss bars to the battery. A 3/8" stud was not used. No top post where used during test, just a direct buss bars connected via the bolt to connect the pos and neg.

Both where given equal charge time on same charger and tested repeatedly to confirm results. I agree that the test may need to be revisited if you think the connection surface area with out a top post on the D2700 is smaller than the battery it was compared against.

But wouldn't the test have still been fair using a bolt that is about 1.25" long to connect the buss bars to the batterys? That makes both batteries seein the same surface area of connection via the bolt being about .75-1" inside the battery. Or is the external surface area for the connection more important? Just a thought.

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Yes, the pad surface area is what I am referring to. The D2700 has an M6 hole... if you removed the same buss bar from an Odyssey batt then the buss bar would have to have a 3/8" hole. When you place the buss bar with at 3/8" hole on the D2700 you will loose about 25% of the contact around the middle of the mounting pad. The length of the bolt into the battery is not that important, it's the contact area between the buss and the pad. I would also like to see the test done with a D2700 that has been cycled a few times with the 1005 Intelli Charger instead of one right out of the box [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by scottiej:
Yes, the pad surface area is what I am referring to. The D2700 has an M6 hole... if you removed the same buss bar from an Odyssey batt then the buss bar would have to have a 3/8" hole. When you place the buss bar with at 3/8" hole on the D2700 you will loose about 25% of the contact around the middle of the mounting pad. The length of the bolt into the battery is not that important, it's the contact area between the buss and the pad. I would also like to see the test done with a D2700 that has been cycled a few times with the 1005 Intelli Charger instead of one right out of the box [Wink]

I see your point. But how is someone supposed to know that when they are hooking up there system? And the D2700 wasn't right out of the box. And the D2700 had been used for about a month prior to testing. And we used a intelli charger from Tom Adams and my Vector Smart charger for the test. So it had been cycled many times before this test. [Wink]

I like the battery but it didn't fair well in our test and I feel we tested it pretty fair. But that was our test and it may be different for other people.

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I dont expect anyone to know that... this is why I made sure to point it out [Wink] I also agree that your test was as fair as it could be given the situation. I am sure if you guys were back at the shop you would have maximized the situation for both products to find the one that truly has the biggest advantage. Thanks for the insight into your testing... every little bit helps us learn [Smile]

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