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Chmielewski
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Bump:
Andreas, how cheap can you get Cyclons in Germany?

At €50 a pop over here, they soon add up. 4 per NSB90, 8 NSBs, 32 Cyclons = eek.

i am not sure about the price but I think its something about 35-40 euro a piece for the biggest cyclone 2-Volt cell. Not sure if its the dealer price. The dealer price for HX400 is 200 Euro here. So a 16 volt battery including one hx400 and 2 cyclones would be around 300 euros. And that battery has very much power at 18 Volts.

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At 400 - 500 euro for a kinetik 16v there are other options for a good 16v setup .

The cyclones are a good way , but there is also a 4v Ground Zero .
With the cyclones i would take 4 per 12v batt .

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The Ground Zero 4volts battery is useless.
You get same power if you take two cell of litle optima.
Only its lot of smaller.

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Chmielewski
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quote:
Originally posted by Haaparanta:
The Ground Zero 4volts battery is useless.

Thats not surprising me. I´ve tested the GZ 12.3500 12 volt battery. I was not as bad as a kinetik hc2400 but still 0.3 db down to a optima GP31 (not sure about the voltage drop but it was less than 11 volts)

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New GZ 12.2500 = Litle optima yellow.
400A@5sec 10,3V +12Celsius with both batteries.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
I had some thing sin. happen to me when I called Kinetik, thay did not realy want to give me any discount and so on. I got realy mad I asked them if thay know who I am??? lol... Thay did not and did not care.

So I called Rich and got all my answers from him.

Its about the same at PM.
I am sure if you go the normal way you will get a hassle too.

Its all about who you go to that makes the diff. imo.

get ahold of scottie bro he will take good care of u and answer any questions u got

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quote:
Originally posted by Team DD Patrick:
With the cyclones i would take 4 per 12v batt .

Depends what 12 V battery it is to calculate how much cells best to use with it [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sinister-David:
quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
I had some thing sin. happen to me when I called Kinetik, thay did not realy want to give me any discount and so on. I got realy mad I asked them if thay know who I am??? lol... Thay did not and did not care.

So I called Rich and got all my answers from him.

Its about the same at PM.
I am sure if you go the normal way you will get a hassle too.

Its all about who you go to that makes the diff. imo.

get ahold of scottie bro he will take good care of u and answer any questions u got
I did, I have talked to Scottie and Rich.
The only thing is price.

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its only money...

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why not the CS 9000 with the 2V Cells.

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quote:
Originally posted by dbJeep:
why not the CS 9000 with the 2V Cells.

I have this thing about haven my system a perfect setup.
If I can find the right 2V cells for my CS 9000 I am all game.

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I used to own Tim Dunham's old Festiva. It had an 18 volt setup of 96 2V BC cells. With 4 memphis 4kw's at .35 voltage drop was only into the mid 16's.

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quote:
Originally posted by Team DD Patrick:
With the cyclones i would take 4 per 12v batt .

Thats how many I said above too, for NSB90s and the like.

But as Stany says, depends on the 12V you are joining it too.

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I also used 4 2v cells with a nsb90 to make 16v
had 4 nsb90 and 16 2v cells

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quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
I had some thing sim. happen to me when I called Kinetik, thay did not realy want to give me any discount and so on. I got realy mad I asked them if thay know who I am??? lol... Thay did not and did not care.


Seriously, to a company, who are you?

Getting mad over not being given free or deeply discounted stuff makes you look like an azzhole. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Conclusive:
quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Sounds:
I had some thing sim. happen to me when I called Kinetik, thay did not realy want to give me any discount and so on. I got realy mad I asked them if thay know who I am??? lol... Thay did not and did not care.


Seriously, to a company, who are you?

Getting mad over not being given free or deeply discounted stuff makes you look like an azzhole. [Roll Eyes]

Do you ever have anything good or constructive to say?

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioAnonymous:
Do you ever have anything good or constructive to say?

Yes..................... [Blah]

Amazingly enough I called Walmart the other day and asked if they could sell me some batteries cheap.(or give them to me) Those freaking buttplugs did not who I was. I told them I won NSPL Finals every year since Christ was born and topped dB Drags leaderboard numerous times. They connected me to one of Sam Waltons daughters. She was like --> [Blah] I got mad, hung up the phone and called Autozone. The NERVE of some people. [Roll Eyes]

[ 01-14-2008, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Conclusive ]

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My point exactly. Now your just trying to mock.

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioAnonymous:
Now your just trying to mock.

Why yes I am. No need to cry here about not getting free gear when 98% of the competitors here pay for it. [Roll Eyes]

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i just replaced my kinetik's with powermaster's. havent done any testing with them though.

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quote:
Originally posted by psturmer:
i just replaced my kinetik's with powermaster's. havent done any testing with them though.

16v?

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