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Chris, have you got prices off both companies?
Being in a similar situation as yourself, thousands of miles away, I would consider reputaion and cost to be both as important.
Does one battery perform better than another? So reducing both batteries needed to be bought and the serious saving of shipping costs.
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quote:Originally posted by Mr Bump: Chris, have you got prices off both companies?
Being in a similar situation as yourself, thousands of miles away, I would consider reputaion and cost to be both as important.
Does one battery perform better than another? So reducing both batteries needed to be bought and the serious saving of shipping costs.
Yes I have and the funny thing, after getting the price from bought, I still cant make a choice. Its coin flipping time.
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quote:Originally posted by Broken Silence - Johnny:
quote:Originally posted by Cactus Sounds: Ok, how about I do this??? I am going to use bought. I was thinking of total of 50pcs 25 each. 2 layers... Whats your input guys?
I don't think mixing would be a good idea personally. I would get powermasters if it were me due to their customer support and the quality of their product.
*straps on flame-proof suit* I would also consider how much kinetik disrespects competitors and the organization with their stupid stickers. Every big show I have ever gone to, when we leave there are kinetik stickers stuck everywhere. Its no wonder that db drag isnt wanted back in certain towns and hotels. Maybe if some people started acting a little more professional, db drag might be able to get some support from industries other than car audio. Now go ahead and flame away...
I like rich, pat, and eric...but the stickers are getting out of hand...
At usac finals they were EVERYWHERE, in the lobby, elevators, EVERYWHERE.
People see that as disrespectful...put yourself in there shoes
Also I would go with Powermaster, Scottie has ALWAYS taken care of me...the few times I talked to Kinetik when I didn't have a vehicle or before they knew who i was (this was before Harbour went back to Kinetik) they just acted like I was a random guy asking about prices...no respect no asking what I had done...but as far as product goes...Cook loves his never had a single problem out of them..can't go wrong with either
Stickers being disrespectful, uh? Sorry but Kinetik stickers are not the only ones that get spread around. There's a maxxisonics sticker, a team nutz and a fusion sticker on my van from finals. I didn't put them there, but I saw it all in good fun not disrespectful. The stickers are not the reason places don't like draggers. It's all the stupid things that happen when there's parties ie. vandelism to hotels that require repairs. Stickers can be peeled off. Come on. BTW I'm guilty of stickering. Also, the stickers are a good marketing tool. Don't hate the company for what we competitors do with them. I've seen PM guys tag people at parties w/ kinetik stickers, so it's not just Team Kinetik. All I'm saying is you can't blame show problems on stickers. BTW USACi wanted to move their finals, it wasn't that they weren't allowed back in KC.
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quote:Originally posted by AudioXtremes: I have seen nothing but Excellent customer and team support from Scottie. All I have seen from Kinetic is stickers. Not that they are bad batteries.
Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves. I'm not saying another battery can't win, but there's more to Kinetik than stickers.
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quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u get almost the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts And it seems that kinetik likes to sponsor.... if people had to pay retail price they would take a different battery for sure
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u see almost get the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
Dude, seriously, you need to shut your mouth. EVERY post about Kinetik ends up with you trash-talking them. I don't know what caused you to have such a hard-on for them, but maybe you should state what your actual problem with them is instead of what you are doing now.
As far as a street application, I believe the OP was asking about 16Vs.....last time I checked, you couldn't run those in a street vehicle, making your trash talking a moot point anyway.
quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u see almost get the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts And it seems that kinetik likes to sponsor.... if people had to pay retail price they would take a different battery for sure
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
did you read what this was going into by chance? usaci had a nice crx that did a 163 and some change..that was done on kinetik 12v
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quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u get almost the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts And it seems that kinetik likes to sponsor.... if people had to pay retail price they would take a different battery for sure
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
Once again you try to bash Kinetik. And once again you are WRONG! Please refer to page 2 of this thread (amish power's post) At USACi finals over half of those Kinetik vehicles were STREET VEHICLES, most of them were using 2400's. I know for a fact because I met each one of them and saw their systems first hand. Why did you leave the next sentence of my quote out of your post? "I'm not saying you can't win with another battery" Why do you even try to stir the pot? Your post is trash IMO!
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quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u get almost the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts And it seems that kinetik likes to sponsor.... if people had to pay retail price they would take a different battery for sure
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
Once again you try to bash Kinetik. And once again you are WRONG! Please refer to page 2 of this thread (amish power's post) At USACi finals over half of those Kinetik vehicles were STREET VEHICLES, most of them were using 2400's. I know for a fact because I met each one of them and saw their systems first hand. Why did you leave the next sentence of my quote out of your post? "I'm not saying you can't win with another battery" Why do you even try to stir the pot? Your post is trash IMO!
Well, I had Kinetik 3200 and is was the biggest WAIST of money ever...
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quote:Originally posted by Team DD Belgium - Dieter:
quote:Originally posted by dB Doc:
quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski:
quote:Originally posted by dB Doc: Did you not read the lists of fellow competitors that win on a "world" level with Kinetik batteries? The amps don't power themselves.
LOL...... put another batteries in those cars u get almost the same result In SuperStreet or Extreme class it doesn´t matter if u have kinetik trash or Optima, Northstar etc....... thats just the amount of batteries what counts And it seems that kinetik likes to sponsor.... if people had to pay retail price they would take a different battery for sure
If i saw a car with kinetik inside competing in a STREET car i would say: yes...... kinetik must be powerful but not if nobody of the top street competitors doesn´t use kinetik trash
Once again you try to bash Kinetik. And once again you are WRONG! Please refer to page 2 of this thread (amish power's post) At USACi finals over half of those Kinetik vehicles were STREET VEHICLES, most of them were using 2400's. I know for a fact because I met each one of them and saw their systems first hand. Why did you leave the next sentence of my quote out of your post? "I'm not saying you can't win with another battery" Why do you even try to stir the pot? Your post is trash IMO!
Well, I had Kinetik 3200 and is was the biggest WAIST of money ever...
oddly enough quite a few people in the states that use/used them placed quite well with them....and the ones i know about didnt cost anywhere near the price of some of the batteries i see now and most of those batteries are alot less expensive than what i heard "3200's" sold for over there. still though a 3200 has nada to do with this.
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I really think we europeans get a different kinetik battery than u guys in the states
There is another guy who has tested HC2400 recently. His results has been fatal. And he is just one of many people who has tested kinetik with the same result.
hmmm..... maybe thats why europeans are much louder in the street class LOL I mean they just knows whats loud and powerful ( just joking ) but hmmm..... i seriously still don´t know any top us-street guy who has used kinetik - i mean those whose score was close to WR.
As we know a product doesn´t have to very good for being used in many street vehicels. Most of people even dont have the experience to know whats the best cause they can´t do tests with different batteries. So com´on what counts is just marketing u see that even a less good product sells
@db doc: I am not bashing kinetik. I just say my experience and experience from MANY europeans. I think there is one small difference If there was just one guy with a good test of kinetik i also would mention that. But there is just nobody .... Please don´t hate me i am just writing what i know
To all guys: Try this battery
It costs here a little bit over 200 euro (means close to 300 dollars) and is a very powerful battery (even more powerful than a nsb90). Combine this battery with cyclone cells and u see hell
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lol... I have some on the way to the shop. I will let you guys know how it went.
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USACi stock cars is a whole different ball game then db drag street cars. (They take their panels out, open thier doors, resin over holes in the interrior, and have people sit in the car and cheat the mic) For one they don't want loud Euro cars in USACi. I think if they did that if would be a wash just like db drag finals was and every "stock, prostock, and most of the mod classes would be taken by the Euro guys.
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