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hehe...I feel really dumb as I am asking this question.. bear with me. Okay, I am replaceing rear fill with MB quart PKC 113(5 1/4"). I have speakers in rear door location and speakers in rear deck(right below rear window). Which set of speakers am I replacing with? Do I replace speakers in rear door location with PKC 113 or do I replace speakers in rear deck with PKC 113?? What am I to do?? In order for me to replace all of them, I need to buy another set of speakers in addition to PKC 113??? Is this necessary?? Please help me. Thanks
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If both pair of speakers are active, you will want to disconnect on set and replace the other, or, replace both sets. You didn't mention what kind of car. I would replace the ones in the rear deck myself.
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hey audiophyle, thanks for your advice. What did you mean by "active"?? I still wanna know if PKC 113 will go into rear deck location or rear door location. Thanks. Are you suggesting that I disconnect speakers in the rear door? MY ride is C36. Thanks.
If you are using the rear speakers for rear fill..then I would use only the rear deck ones.
If you are using the rear speakers to supply your back passengers with nice music..I would use the rear door speakers...that way they have nice music..but it doesn't mess up your front stage as much as the rear deck speakers would when used for the same purpose (rear music NOT rear full)...
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Thanks Dragon. Are you saying that rear deck speakers can mess up the front stage? i didn't know that. I am mainly concerned about the front stage and don't care too much about passengers in the back=). How about using both rear door speakers and rear deck speakers at the same time?? Would this be worse than just using one of the two?? What will produce the best sound overall? Thanks.
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I'm mostly a truck instal person, but I have put some systems in cars.......why do people drive cars and not trucks?
If you're trying to keep the front sound-stage and don't care about passengers, then you could almost forgo the co-axials/comps altogether. Just put a pair of mid-bass drivers in the doors and mid-range drivers in the rear deck. Either use the amps internal cross-overs or an external (or in conjunction with each other) and you should be able to get a nice warm sound back there, but not one that is going to pull the vocals back.
Or, option 3....get a truck....rear fill not a problem ....j/k.
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I meant are these factory speakers in the doors/dash?? Are there already speakers in those locations that are already playing? Personally, I'd dump the rear all together and concentrate on the front end, but if you have passengers back there all the time, run a pair of cheapy coaxes off deck power and fade them out when no one is sitting back there.
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Well any rear speakers can ruin your front stage..
I was thinking that if you were concerned with your passengers than you would be running your rear speakers with a full range signal..with a full range signal for your rear passengers..the door locations would be better for your front stage because the upper range of frequencies being played in the rear would be less prominent in the lower location. If the rear deck speakers were used for your passengers with a full range signal..the upper frequencies along with vocals would bounce off your windshield to the front unobstucted, thereby degrading your front stage.
Typically with rear fill...the rear speakers are low-passed to reduce the production of high frequency notes from the rear. Hence, keeping your sound upfront...
hope that helps...good luck!
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Thanks uncle ber, Little Dragon and Audiophyle
Here is what I think. In order to avoid problems that can be caused by a full range signal, I think I will forgo using any tweter for the rear fill. I was thinking about using a set of good midrange woofers instead of coaxials. What do you think and Where I place those woofers? in door or in deck?? Thanks.~~ for inputs. you guys have been very helpful ... If all fails, i might as well get a truck=)
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That sounds good for rear fill...just make sure you still use a crossover to send the rear mids the correct frequencies...
I would probably put them in the rear deck for fill...although...here's another idea...
if you have a sub in the trunk you could leave the rear deck speaker openings open to allow more bass from a sub to get into the cabin...and place the mids in the door locations...
just another idea to make you even more undecided on what you want to do! Sorry..all these options frustrated me too..so i'm just spreading the wealth!
you could try them in both spots to see where you like them too!
Good luck again!
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Dragon, that's another good idea=) Well, this whole speaker arragement thing is driving me nuts. But, I think I have a pretty good idea of what I want to do with the rear fill. i will try both locations and see what I prefer. HEHE.. I guess trading my car in for a truck is not an option anymore=) Just one more thing, since I have 5 1/4" seperates up front, does it make more sense to go with 5 1/4" mid woofers in rear deck? Or should I go with something bigger like 61/2"? I can get both for the same price=) What do you think. I would think that 5 1/4" mid in rear deck would be a better choice since you don't want too much coming from the rear deck. You can always disagree with me on this. I really want to learn from you car audio nuts=) Thanks for everything. TIME TO ORDER SOME phAT WOOFERS~
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Well....I am Captain Budget, so if I could get the 6.5s for the same $ as the 5.25s, I'd go with the 6.5s. Although, you have a point with the 6.5s might overpower the front-stage. The 5.25s should give you a nice sense of warmth that'll make you rather happy. Front-stage is good, but it's nice to have a little bit of ambiance too .
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HEHEHHE...Glad to add to the frustration of What to do? What to do? --- After awhile, you find yourself asking, what do I like? Do I like that? AAHHHHH..I need a beer.
I'm really glad you are trying to find out what you like and not just doing what people tell you to! Kudos.
I would get the 6.5 for the same price...it might give you a little better low frequency extension..and you can always adjust the volume of the 6.5 down later via the fader..
Gotta Go! See ya when I see ya!
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