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Hey all.I am a noob so bear with me. Getting some help from a friend that competed some years ago, but has been out of the game for a while and does not know what's out and good now day's. 02 F-150 reg. cab. I am building this ground up. Already have a Alpine cda 9886 HU. I plan to run A Zapco DC350.2 that has an internal processor, for the fronts. I have heard that rear fill not neccesary for this truck.
ID10D2 V.3 sub's in a sealed 1.8 cuft. enclosure powerd by a Zapco REF. 500.1 Doors will be heavily lined with Second skin products as well as back panel.
My budget for front speaks is about 500.00 been looking at morel, cadence, rainbow and image dynamics, tweeters in pillars? Dont need components because of the processor so seperates? Any future help would be awesome & greatly appreciated. I have posted this ? on 2 sites, 4 places, and no info
Sorry this is so long, please help!......
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hey andy.do you think a seven will fit the kick area in that model truck?and how did that effect imaging.or rather,how high can you get the stage without a seriouse undertaking?seat's seam so high and close to windshield to me.and were you able to vent them out? after looking at door seams very restrictive without modding the panel if offsetting for magnet hits the rail deal, and angling there under those conditions seams hard to me.thanks....
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quote:Originally posted by Andy Jones: ^It's Legatia
Are you mounting these in the door or the kicks?
I have a 2002 also. IF you move the wire in the kicks up out of the way and cut some metal you can flush a 6 1/2" in the kick fairly easily
What is your budget?
Crap my bad, Legatia. I was thinking doors, but in looking, not much room. Was tying to see if the legatia 7" would work but window rail is close.
Budget for the fronts is about 500.00, legatia are 650.00 but would suck it up if they were worth it, thanks for the input Andy. Also what did you put in the doors/kicks? Do you think an 8 would fit in kicks?
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quote:Originally posted by jamesws: Ok just looked at Hybrid Audio Technologies Site. Scott Bulwada co founded this Co. and uses the Legatia pro series in his car.
The Legatia L6 mid/tweet combo si looking sweet, anybody have ANY feedback on these, thanks for any info.
quote:Originally posted by Andy Jones: Basic suggestions though would be Morel Elate 6 1/2 set or Dynaudio MW162 set.
Thanks for the input Andy. So I listen to a wide array of music but mostly softer rock (pearl jam type), blues and electonica. Would these speaks perform well with that in mind?
And have you heard the Legatia's at all ?
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I am also considering the Hybrid Audio's Clarus speaks, fits the budget perfect, and works good free air and specs are nice. 500.00 Check em out @ Hybrid and let me know what you think. Thanks D,
If I go Dynaudio mw's, I will be over budget, but could make it work probably.
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quote:Originally posted by diamond: hey andy.do you think a seven will fit the kick area in that model truck?and how did that effect imaging.or rather,how high can you get the stage without a seriouse undertaking?seat's seam so high and close to windshield to me.and were you able to vent them out? after looking at door seams very restrictive without modding the panel if offsetting for magnet hits the rail deal, and angling there under those conditions seams hard to me.thanks....
Once you open the metal up, a 7" will fit down there.
Imaging will be the best from that location. It has teh best pathlengths of anywhere in that vehicle.
For heigh, you will get good from that location, but you can also add your tweeters up in the apillars (but test that, especially if you are using passive crossovers).
quote:Originally posted by Andy Jones: ^It's Legatia
Are you mounting these in the door or the kicks?
I have a 2002 also. IF you move the wire in the kicks up out of the way and cut some metal you can flush a 6 1/2" in the kick fairly easily
What is your budget?
Crap my bad, Legatia. I was thinking doors, but in looking, not much room. Was tying to see if the legatia 7" would work but window rail is close.
Budget for the fronts is about 500.00, legatia are 650.00 but would suck it up if they were worth it, thanks for the input Andy. Also what did you put in the doors/kicks? Do you think an 8 would fit in kicks?
the Legatia 6" will fit. It measures 7" across, but 1" of that is the mounting flange. So it really has the cut out of a small 6 1/2" driver. It will fit in the door, but you will have to trim a 1/2" of metal from the door opening. Not a big deal.
I used the Hybrid stuff a few years ago.
Currently I'm rebuilding my truck and it will have an Incriminator Audio front stage. 6 1/2 and tweeter. 6 1/2" in the kicks, tweeter in the apillar or possible the corner of the dash. Still testing that.
If you do an 8" you are going to have to go to the floor. Then cut a hole in the floor. I've done that also. It works very nice.
quote:Originally posted by Andy Jones: Basic suggestions though would be Morel Elate 6 1/2 set or Dynaudio MW162 set.
Thanks for the input Andy. So I listen to a wide array of music but mostly softer rock (pearl jam type), blues and electonica. Would these speaks perform well with that in mind?
And have you heard the Legatia's at all ?
The Morel stuff will work great for that. The Elate 6 1/2 is incredible and the MT23 tweeter is so good it is stupid. Get it up in the apillars or door and it is AWESOME. Really hard to beat that set for a prefabbed 2 way set up.
I used the Legatia stuff a few years ago. I had the second or third set of L6's ever released and had the first set of L1 tweeters other than what Scott had.
If the only amp you have for the front stage is taht Zapco DC3250 then you are going to have to build passives for the Legatia's. they don't come with any. That or you will need to buy another amplifier so you can go active.
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If the only amp you have for the front stage is taht Zapco DC3250 then you are going to have to build passives for the Legatia's. they don't come with any. That or you will need to buy another amplifier so you can go active.
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Ok, Andy, so the elates are like a grand from what saw.My Budget 500.00... with that in mind what about the clarus line from hybrid, they come with crossovers and r in the price range. 499.00 And I was thinking didnt need the crossovers with the processor, but from what I am hearing, I still need them, thanks for the info.
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i looked at the amp jim.i have a hard time skimmin specs now but i didnt see a way the amp will bandpass those channels.darn brain fog.lol.
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hey jimbo,bottom of the line is just that mostly.lol.
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2 channel amp,how did that get by me.i should just quit now,lol.an audiocontrol crossover may be handy for you if get outta kontrol. personally i like to band pass everything for my total control...... and its better to make your own passives if need be than use power sinks.better quality parts you can use.i need to look into this for me again.i forgot it all though.i have to learn from scratch again,how fun,hehe.cause i wanna delete the 9.0. but ill have to run to sets of tweets with one amp and bandpass each.sounds funky.probly end up with some wierd phase issues,lol.maybe i will switch to 8 ohm since i will be listening just above reference level.mostly.i gotta control myself.gets easy when your ears are messed up though.sorry so off topic............
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So in my research I have found that if the kick location is not at least 3 feet away from door location, its not woth the hassel of installing speaks in the kicks because the stage will not rise that much, and more reflections down there. Is this true?
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Also. my DC 350.2 Amp has a processor in it that I can control from a laptop. Doesnt this mean I can have an active set up or do I still need to run 2 amps, 1 for mids, 1 for tweets. If I use crossovers how will the processor work on both tweet and mid with the one amp. Sorry a little confused and trying to educate myself, thanks
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I think I got it. Processor in a 2 channel amp will process only 2 speakers so if I have 2 mids and 2 tweets I need 4 channels. I can daisy chain 2 of the DC amps and control thru the fist one by using the dip switch and addressing the second amp. What do you think about 100 rms to the mids and 50 rms to the tweets? Active system.
My friend has an RTA to tune as well.
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