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spyder, im willing to bet that ding's system sounds better than yours, I ask ding for advice all the time because I knwo he has experience with just about all the high end drivers on the market. He is always buying new stuff, testing it out and giving reviews. I have heard dynaudios too, and IMO they do lack in midbass IB. There is much better for cheaper if you are looking for a strictly midbass driver. You are dealing with 2 people who have TONS (most likely more than you) of experience in high end audio and just because you live on termpro and post every two seconds to every new post doesnt mean you know anything and that your suggestion is the BEST solution for everyone. If you want strictly midbass look into CDT eurosport, I just installed my euro braxials and I LOVE them, the midbass is definitely better than DYN's. Focal is another good choice (either the Poly's or Utopias, not much midbass difference, you will be impressed regardless) along with many others. Im sure ding and Dual700 can steer you in the right direction as far as cheaper solutions for better midbass... Posts: 18 | From: Kentucky | Registered: Jul 2002
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well i have to jump in here,,, sorry guys,, but it seems that my car an 88 mazda will never sound good no matter what i put in it,,, but it is wierd,, hmmm i cant figure it out,, i was told by ding that my nd8's in AP kicks sound pretty damn good for kicks that look so disgusting,, i guess i must tear them down and have someone do them for me and pay hundreds of dollars for them,,
also ding has helped me a great deal,, and by the way he dogs MY mb quarts all the time,, i thought they were the end all be all in car audio,, but i was wrong after hearing his sweet set of plat tweets,,, hell mine will never keep up.... but im getting there,, and once i pick his brain somemore,, i will get there....
ding has done many reviews for us on other forums.. and is looked up to with absolute high regards,, i truly consider him a real friend along with dual700,,, this is not to flame dont get me wrong,, but this is to inform you that the person you flamed has knowledge of home and car audio... and he is always looking for a way to get the highest end possible for the best price possible,, for others,,,,,,,
if it werent for him ideas that i have now i wouldnt,, he isnt someone that just puts bs out there,, and qoute numbers and gives you a bunch of mickey mouse answers,, he will tell you like it is,, and he will back it up.... now as for his hearing,,, i have seen him in action,, and if it werent for him my system would still sound like shiat but i wouldnt know it... now i wouldnt say he is a master,,, but i sure wont say he doesnt know his shiat either,,, i trust his opinions and his judgment... i have been a member here before i knew ding..but i never post,,, i just read,,, and so far,, i stay where im liked and where im respected,, so mister spiderman this is more education of a person than just a flame.. i wish i could say more,, but i wont,, and as for dual700,, yes they are good friends,, and they both share knowledge with each other,, and yes im a friend also.. and by the way i dont have the best system in the world,, but it sounds better than most out there,, because i have had help...,,, stop trying to insult,, just ask..." what speakers have you listened to and actually demoed in a car",, simple question would have given you a simple answer,, ok im finished now...
quote:Originally posted by dingaling: uh no...re-read what he wants...strictly midbass 60-200ish hz... why does he need dyn's midrange? he doesn't. the peerless is a more logical solution. Besides...have you even compared dyn mids to others? They aren't the last word in midbass when it comes to IB use. I've used their mw150 and mw160 mids...they aren't really impressive at all in midbass. I've also used the peerless...and they are a much better unit for strictly midbass.
ps...there are MANY driver that are on par or surpass Dynaudio... in home..AND car...
wow, yes I've listen to most mids on the market, and besides a few sales reps. I've never heard such bullsh!t come out of someones mouth. anyone who uses Dyns or hears them falls in love, could be your ears need to be checked or you don't know what good mids are, you probably like MB-Q. I would make schedule a visit with the audiologist and get your ears checked.
The MBQ QSD's are a fine set of speakers. Personally, I think your pretty clueless when it comes to car audio.
Hmm... I like MB Quart. I love Dynaudio, and prefer them even IB to the Focal.
And I agree with the people that disagree with me. Spyderwhatever, you are acting quite childish, even if you are wrong. In this case, I agree that the Dyn midbass is not the best. First off, the guy doesn't want to cut to fit the 8, and even the Dyn 7 will be too big. So that is not gonna work. I haven't had any experience with the Seas or Peerless drivers, so I can't say if they will work or not. I think IB an MB Quart driver could work very well too. And while you go off to slam me, realize my car with 5.25" midrange drivers ONLY up front from the MB Quart mids. And they were not Q series either. And the lowest I scored in midbass in IASCA competition was a 9. Blah.
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Im sorry brynn but that is absolute bull... maybe the dumbest thing i ever heard!!
just playin there, remember the WRX post...
seriously though, spyder youre out of your league here.... what are your thoughts on the pyramids?
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Focal better then Dynaudio?! This is a good one...lol.
Well I guess if all you like in a speaker is output, that might be true...Focals are louder but not as balanced, rich, smooth or natural/neutral as Dynas. I might as well pick a set of the crappiest horns and say that they are better then Focal and Dynaudio just because they are louder.
Spyderman...you really are one of the most ignorant people I have ever seen post. Good example of "post count means nothing" there kid
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sup jae---- your mazda sounds fine to me although i think your soundstage can be widened if you take your tweets out of your vents and place them either in kicks or in your a pillars.
oh and btw..can someone say the roof is on FIRE ?
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hey, spyderwhatever, do me a favor and stop cluttering my topic with b/s. i thought you were just very opinionated at first, but it is clear you dont know jack. just because you have heard your dads dogs brothers 100000k sound system doesnt mean dyn is the end all of the audio world. i know they are great and i weould like to get a chance to hear them. any rational person with any knowledge of car audio would never call anything the end all of sound because there are many different tastes. just because the dyns are your favorites doesnt give you the right to act like a jackass on a web forum. thanks for all the good replies, and ding.... could you hit me up with an e mail with your top few drivers for about 100 and under each? i think the peerless are a very good possibility, but i would like to discuss it with you with out immature know it alls butting in. my addy is cody6766@yahoo.com. thanks guys
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Hey, ECA guys welcome to Termpro....lol, there is a SQ section that I co-moderate and invite and welcome all of you guys to visit.
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quote:Originally posted by winslow: Hey, ECA guys welcome to Termpro....lol, there is a SQ section that I co-moderate and invite and welcome all of you guys to visit.
sorry winslow but this may seem a bit OT---
(this is chronicavenger from sounddomain) but i was wondering if youre willing to sell your stock accord doorpanels --i'm planning on selling my 93' accord by the summer time. mines have 8" gaps for the midbass's and want to get some new panels to retain the stock look for resale value.
thanks lmk.
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quote:Originally posted by SoundsGreat: sup jae---- your mazda sounds fine to me although i think your soundstage can be widened if you take your tweets out of your vents and place them either in kicks or in your a pillars.
thanks,, you should hear it now,,, since i have changed my h/u....
quote:Originally posted by retrodrive: [QB]Focal better then Dynaudio?! This is a good one...lol.
Well I guess if all you like in a speaker is output, that might be true...Focals are louder but not as balanced, rich, smooth or natural/neutral as Dynas. I might as well pick a set of the crappiest horns and say that they are better then Focal and Dynaudio just because they are louder. QB]
I think you've been hanging out on Sound Domain too long. Still bashing Focal I see, I guess some things never change.
Your analogy is poor and so is your description. Your Focal bashing is getting old, its time for you to get a new routine. I would think by now you would have realized that bashing Focal has got you no where since people are still buying them and loving them. Oh yea, how about those blown Rainbow's of yours? LOL!!!
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Blown I never blew a single speaker in my car. WTF are you talking about. Looks like you have nothing to say but make sh|t up.
See, you always recommend Focals and Focals only. The fact is that there are very many speakers out there that have better quality, better output and you just can't accept that. Back in the day Focal used to be one of the best...the newer drivers that they make are nothing special.
So unless you give other speakers a chance you are still pretty ignorant in my eyes.
P.S. I have not been to Speaker Support on SD for quite a few month...it got boring.
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quote:Originally posted by spydermann: dual700, did I ofend your boyfriend, before you get on here with no knowledge, of anything but you head up dings azz, look at all my old post. few here have listened to as many different systems as me. that's something I pride myself on, knowing what I'm talking about. most stuff from home and car I've lsitened to most on the market. seeing as how ding has Rainbow in a bucket Camry kinda hard to believe he knows anything about understanding highend audio. and for the record my best friends dad has a system in his house that's about $500k, and about twice a month I listen to it. and for kicks I go and listen to Doug Lisner's car when he's in town or has some free time, so I have plenty of experience with highend audio. once you two are on here a little bit then you'll be ready for me, look at old post and you'll see what I mean
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dual ding it's out in the open that you two are lovers so keep on defending each other. that's what life parterns do. if you must know what's in my friends system send me a email and you can have all you need. don't want you two trying to rob my boyz dad. never said Dyns were the end all everyone knows B&W are. most how get to the top have good to great cars not buckets with Rainbows in them
Cody you don't have enough car audio knowledge to install a HU, and not nearly enough to post like so learn a little son. work on you skills then holla at me.
m400 what do you know about anything...that's what I thought nuttin so work on your typing skills and then you can talk.
Brynn aren't you the cat from Pacific-Audio forum go back then need you to watch over there 3 post a day.
now Mr. PS or should I say PoS, we all know your the M. Chumrah/R.Kelly of the board.
now what I said is that Dyns are some of the best mids on the market home or car. that's not up for dispute. now what may work best for him is something totally different. depends on space cost, power given, personal preference. guidelines like that.
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Don't get caught in the WEB Gimmie some bass baby keep your XXX and others, MTX for me Is that me in the top 10 now?? Do you smell what the BASS is cooking... Posts: 6799 | From: cincinnati, oh, USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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quote:Originally posted by retrodrive: [QB]Focal better then Dynaudio?! This is a good one...lol.
Well I guess if all you like in a speaker is output, that might be true...Focals are louder but not as balanced, rich, smooth or natural/neutral as Dynas. I might as well pick a set of the crappiest horns and say that they are better then Focal and Dynaudio just because they are louder. QB]
I think you've been hanging out on Sound Domain too long. Still bashing Focal I see, I guess some things never change.
Your analogy is poor and so is your description. Your Focal bashing is getting old, its time for you to get a new routine. I would think by now you would have realized that bashing Focal has got you no where since people are still buying them and loving them. Oh yea, how about those blown Rainbow's of yours? LOL!!!
well people are buying wrangler jeans does that make them as good as Diesel no , that's retros opp. and he's alowed to have it so let him
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Don't get caught in the WEB Gimmie some bass baby keep your XXX and others, MTX for me Is that me in the top 10 now?? Do you smell what the BASS is cooking... Posts: 6799 | From: cincinnati, oh, USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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quote:Originally posted by cody6766: hey, spyderwhatever, do me a favor and stop cluttering my topic with b/s. i thought you were just very opinionated at first, but it is clear you dont know jack. just because you have heard your dads dogs brothers 100000k sound system doesnt mean dyn is the end all of the audio world. i know they are great and i weould like to get a chance to hear them. any rational person with any knowledge of car audio would never call anything the end all of sound because there are many different tastes. just because the dyns are your favorites doesnt give you the right to act like a jackass on a web forum. thanks for all the good replies, and ding.... could you hit me up with an e mail with your top few drivers for about 100 and under each? i think the peerless are a very good possibility, but i would like to discuss it with you with out immature know it alls butting in. my addy is cody6766@yahoo.com. thanks guys
if your gonna blast be creative, I'm very open minded when it comes to CA. if you notice I always say trust your ears what I like no one else will like that's the way of the beast. uh oh Cody is gonna hook up with ding and dual
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Don't get caught in the WEB Gimmie some bass baby keep your XXX and others, MTX for me Is that me in the top 10 now?? Do you smell what the BASS is cooking... Posts: 6799 | From: cincinnati, oh, USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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quote:Originally posted by RsF165: spyder, im willing to bet that ding's system sounds better than yours, I ask ding for advice all the time because I knwo he has experience with just about all the high end drivers on the market. He is always buying new stuff, testing it out and giving reviews. I have heard dynaudios too, and IMO they do lack in midbass IB. There is much better for cheaper if you are looking for a strictly midbass driver. You are dealing with 2 people who have TONS (most likely more than you) of experience in high end audio and just because you live on termpro and post every two seconds to every new post doesnt mean you know anything and that your suggestion is the BEST solution for everyone. If you want strictly midbass look into CDT eurosport, I just installed my euro braxials and I LOVE them, the midbass is definitely better than DYN's. Focal is another good choice (either the Poly's or Utopias, not much midbass difference, you will be impressed regardless) along with many others. Im sure ding and Dual700 can steer you in the right direction as far as cheaper solutions for better midbass...
this is funny since you in tucky you can hear my system and then I'll let you judge that. and for the record I'm only on once a day I have a life and school which is more than I can say for most of you all. and I doubt they have more exp. then me but weider things have been know to happen
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Like I said, provide pictures and I will provide mine. -Us robbing your boyfriend's dad? If you haven't notice, Ding is in Bay Area, and I am in LA. Good idea. -Wow, now it's B&W? You funny. Not even close. This tells people that you are nothing but full of crap -Rainbow and bucket toyota? Look at your signature. What do you have? I challenge you that his car sounds 5X better than your bass car. -School, and this arrogant? I am 31 yrs old, been into car audio since 1990, you think you have speaker exposures more than me? I think by that time you still in your diapers.
Get a clue, 4000+ plus posts with this kind of attitude, that really tells me, that you ain't nothing but big mouthed punk.
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spyder wow, must have taken a lot of brain power for you to come up with those replies...only like 2-3 days... go figure... must have taken all of your brain cells to come up with those replies... like i said...grow up and get some real knowledge... most of your relies on this board are garbage and have no substance.... you're just alil post whore...go back to your shack and look at magazines and dream on kid...
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WTF does speaker sound has to do with jeans? This is a worst analogy I have ever heard. God damn dude...you have not said anything productive or anything that makes sense in this thread. Everyone can see your ignorance and what makes it funny is your post count. There are far more knowledgeable people on this thread and not a single one supports you. Why? Just because you are stupid and ignorant...who would want to support that.
You run MTX...LMAO...and you still have the nerve to knock on somebody's choice of equipment. You just got owned in your own house. Have a good day.
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quote:Originally posted by spydermann: ]this is funny since you in tucky you can hear my system and then I'll let you judge that. and for the record I'm only on once a day I have a life and school which is more than I can say for most of you all. and I doubt they have more exp. then me but weider things have been know to happen
You go to school? No way... why don't you learn how to spell...school must be weider for you too
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quote:Originally posted by spydermann: dual ding it's out in the open that you two are lovers so keep on defending each other. that's what life parterns do. if you must know what's in my friends system send me a email and you can have all you need. don't want you two trying to rob my boyz dad. never said Dyns were the end all everyone knows B&W are. most how get to the top have good to great cars not buckets with Rainbows in them
Why da hell would I want to rob your friend's my-first-sony set? I have better things to do with my time... and probably unlike you... I have owned b&w nautilus speakers...can you say that you have?
quote:Originally posted by spydermann: now what I said is that Dyns are some of the best mids on the market home or car. that's not up for dispute. now what may work best for him is something totally different. depends on space cost, power given, personal preference. guidelines like that.
wow look, brain work in action...only took you 3 days for you to reiterate what others have been saying all long... you're quite a fast learner aren't you?
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spyder****, how much time do you spend thing up all these "creative" personal attacks? you must be up all night grinding gears to come up with these whitty remarks. i mean the time you called ding gay, wow, how creative is that? can you teack me to be like you? i know it will be hard, but is there any way i can be as cool as you are?
quote:Cody you don't have enough car audio knowledge to install a HU, and not nearly enough to post like so learn a little son. work on you skills then holla at me
i wont even waste a reply on that. i dont give a rats ass what you think of my skills or knowledge and their extent, all i cared about is whad mid bass drivers would best suit my needs. get a clue and a life. its sad so see someone that has to build their self esteme by flaming others on a web forum. truely a sad thing.
with that said, thanks to everyone that helped and actualy posted useful information. i think i will probably end up with the peerless csx 6.5's. thanks again for all the informaitve replies and because this topic has pretty much turned into a flame war i will not post on this one again. so mods, if you want to lock it, feel free to. i have the info i need, thanks again.
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